Are the dedicated graphics in the 15 and 16 noticeably better than the graphics in the 13?

[Hieveryone]

I use a 2019 15" base model and it has:

Radeon Pro 555X 4 GB

Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB

Are these better than the graphics in the 2020 13" model?

 

[drxcm]

The integrated graphics on the 2020 MBP 13 is better than the 16
The dedicated graphics on the 15/16 are not an option on 13

 

[Hieveryone]

The integrated graphics on the 2020 MBP 13 is better than the 16
The dedicated graphics on the 15/16 are not an option on 13

Wow so the iGPU on the 2020 13" is better than the dGPU on the 16"?!?

 

[UBS28]

No, the dGPU in the 16" is far more powerful. Only the iGPU in the 2020 13" inch smokes the iGPU in the 2020 16" MBP.

 

[Hieveryone]

No, the dGPU in the 16" is far more powerful. Only the iGPU in the 2020 13" inch smokes the iGPU in the 2020 16" MBP.

The 16" has an iGPU model?! I thought they all had dGPU

What about my Radeon Pro 555X 4 GB and Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB in my 2019 15"?

Is that good?

I play Call of Duty on it in Windows Bootcamp and it's fine, no issues

 

[UBS28]

The 16" has an iGPU model?! I thought they all had dGPU

What about my Radeon Pro 555X 4 GB and Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB in my 2019 15"?

Is that good?

I play Call of Duty on it in Windows Bootcamp and it's fine, no issues

The 16" has both. Most of the time the iGPU is used to conserve battery life. Only in very demanding tasks, the dGPU is switched on. There is also on option in OS X to disable automatic graphic switching. Then the dGPU is always used.

The 555X is quite similar to the iGPU in the 2020 13" high-end model according to Geekbench (10500 vs 12000).

However if gaming in Bootcamp is your priority, I assume AMD has very good drivers optimised for gaming in Windows. So I expect the performance difference to be larger than Geekbench would indicate in your use case.

 

[Hieveryone]

The 16" has both. Most of the time the iGPU is used to conserve battery life. Only in very demanding tasks, the dGPU is switched on. There is also on option in OS X to disable automatic graphic switching. Then the dGPU is always used.

The 555X is quite similar to the iGPU in the 2020 13" high-end model according to Geekbench (10500 vs 12000).

However if gaming in Bootcamp is your priority, I assume AMD has very good drivers optimised for gaming in Windows. So I expect the performance difference to be larger than Geekbench would indicate in your use case.

I see. Well that’s good news then. Yeah I mean I don’t think it’s the BEST gaming rig out there by any means but I love it. It works great, no issues. Everything is smooth. No stutters or hiccups. The graphics are fine, can’t really complain. I’m playing on my LG Ultrafine 4K display which I got from the Apple store

 

[Patcell]

To be clear, there is absolutely no comparison between the Iris Plus G7 (2020 MBP 13) and the Radeon Pro 5300M (2019 MBP 16 dGPU). The 5300M mops the floor with the Iris Plus G7.

When comparing the Radeon Pro 555X to the Iris Plus G7 the gap is not quite as wide in terms of raw compute power. That being said, the gaming performance of the 555X will be considerably better than that of the Iris Plus G7. The Geekbench compute test is not a great tool for comparing gaming ability. For example, Notebookcheck.net shows the Iris Plus G7 with a score of 46 FPS in the GFXBench 3.0 Manhattan test in 1080p. In comparison, the Radeon Pro 555X scores 70 FPS in the same test. That means the 555X is 65% faster than the Iris Plus G7 in a gaming-oriented benchmark.

 

[evec]

Don't believe the benchmark, the real world of UHD630 is smoother that Iris Plus G7.
This is because the TDP of low power CPU is very restricted,
when CPU and GPU both run intensive, the GPU clock quick to reduce due to temperature wall.

 

[Hieveryone]

To be clear, there is absolutely no comparison between the Iris Plus G7 (2020 MBP 13) and the Radeon Pro 5300M (2019 MBP 16 dGPU). The 5300M mops the floor with the Iris Plus G7.

When comparing the Radeon Pro 555X to the Iris Plus G7 the gap is not quite as wide in terms of raw compute power. That being said, the gaming performance of the 555X will be considerably better than that of the Iris Plus G7. The Geekbench compute test is not a great tool for comparing gaming ability. For example, Notebookcheck.net shows the Iris Plus G7 with a score of 46 FPS in the GFXBench 3.0 Manhattan test in 1080p. In comparison, the Radeon Pro 555X scores 70 FPS in the same test. That means the 555X is 65% faster than the Iris Plus G7 in a gaming-oriented benchmark.

Awesome! Yeah I’m using the Radeon 555 one and I think it’s fine.

Call of Duty runs without stuttering or hiccups.

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Does anyone know what setting are optimal for this game?

Like I want to maximize graphics without it stuttering or getting stuck

 

[pshufd]

I'd always go with Discrete over Integrated. Integrated uses system RAM for display buffers so the CPU has to send data to the memory subsystem on any display changes. With discrete graphics, the CPU can send far fewer commands and data to the GPU which has its own RAM for display buffers.

So you have less graphics traffic over the system bus with discrete. You also get to use your system RAM for OS/Programs/Cache.

I have a 2014 MBP 15 with Integrated and a 2015 MBP 15 with Discrete. I can get graphics artifacts on high-resolution monitors when there's a lot of other stuff going on with the machine in the 2014 with Integrated. It doesn't happen on the 2015 with Discrete.

 

[Hieveryone]

Don't believe the benchmark, the real world of UHD630 is smoother that Iris Plus G7.
This is because the TDP of low power CPU is very restricted,
when CPU and GPU both run intensive, the GPU clock quick to reduce due to temperature wall.

Yeah I don’t know anything about these things so I didn’t understand too much but bottom line seems that don’t just follow benchmarks. Real world can be different
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I'd always go with Discrete over Integrated. Integrated uses system RAM for display buffers so the CPU has to send data to the memory subsystem on any display changes. With discrete graphics, the CPU can send far fewer commands and data to the GPU which has its own RAM for display buffers.

So you have less graphics traffic over the system bus with discrete. You also get to use your system RAM for OS/Programs/Cache.

I have a 2014 MBP 15 with Integrated and a 2015 MBP 15 with Discrete. I can get graphics artifacts on high-resolution monitors when there's a lot of other stuff going on with the machine in the 2014 with Integrated. It doesn't happen on the 2015 with Discrete.

I’ve always heard dedicated is the way to go. Of course there’s been times when dedicated failed and also it generally costs more.

if the 13” offered dedicated that’d be nice

 

[UBS28]

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