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deef

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does the Big Sur installer include python, Ruby , etc.?
 

Andropov

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Python seems to be installed, and uses Python 2.7.6 (still) for "legacy purposes". Python 3.8.2 is also included. The developer page for Xcode also states that "macOS comes with AppleScript, Perl, Python, and Ruby already installed".

Running python on Terminal (fresh install of Big Sur):

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Running python3 on Terminal:
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Andropov

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Why shouldn't it?

macOS Catalina 10.15 release notes said:
Scripting language runtimes such as Python, Ruby, and Perl are included in macOS for compatibility with legacy software. Future versions of macOS won’t include scripting language runtimes by default, and might require you to install additional packages. If your software depends on scripting languages, it’s recommended that you bundle the runtime within the app.
 

frou

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I kinda suspected it might not actually happen in 10.16 aka Big Sur, because Apple's statement last year said "Future versions of macOS ..." rather than something more direct like "Starting with the next version of macOS ..."

I want Python 2 specifically to get nuked. It's annoying that it's hanging around forever in the base install and crufting up the development environment of people who use modern day Python on macOS.
 
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ondioline

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I bet even when it gets removed it will be installed with xcode-select just like git and company
 
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