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at&t plans on having LTE in 2011

Tallest Skil said:
Trials... in 2011.

Meaning the "4G" iPhone will NOT becoming for several years, people. Give it up, already. :rolleyes:
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Um the link says
However, AT&T's Rinne says AT&T is currently in a request for proposal (RFP) process for LTE vendors for LTE, and plans LTE trials in 2010 with commercial services targeted for mid-year 2011. Verizon is already engaged in limited trials.
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Bolding mine. Either way AT&T could end up taking longer than Verizon. Plus they haven't even finished rolling out 3G so don't get your hopes up on a fast LTE rollout.
 
diamond.g said:
Um the link says

Bolding mine. Either way AT&T could end up taking longer than Verizon. Plus they haven't even finished rolling out 3G so don't get your hopes up on a fast LTE rollout.
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There's some hope for a quick LTE rollout if they keep on killing the EDGE band. But I suspect we'll see a switch in provider for the iPhone because Verizon will be definitely be THE player for 4G speed and they'll finally be GSM-based.
 
Everybody who says they dislike ATT would just complain about Verizon if Apple switched.
 
Warbrain said:
But I suspect we'll see a switch in provider for the iPhone because Verizon will be definitely be THE player for 4G speed and they'll finally be GSM-based.
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No, they won't be GSM based. Nor will anyone who moves to LTE.

LTE is a 4G, IP-based system, which has nothing in common with GSM. It's technically closer to CDMA (radio) and WiMAX (back end), if anything.

The myth got started simply because LTE was picked by most carriers as a path away from GSM.

The older GSM and CDMA networks will remain in place, in parallel with LTE, for another decade.
 
kdarling said:
No, they won't be GSM based. Nor will anyone who moves to LTE.

LTE is a 4G, IP-based system, which has nothing in common with GSM. It's technically closer to CDMA (radio) and WiMAX (back end), if anything.

The myth got started simply because LTE was picked by most carriers as a path away from GSM.

The older GSM and CDMA networks will remain in place, in parallel with LTE, for another decade.
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You always killing peoples dreams of a Verizon iPhone.... You should stop that! :D
 
kdarling said:
No, they won't be GSM based. Nor will anyone who moves to LTE.

LTE is a 4G, IP-based system, which has nothing in common with GSM. It's technically closer to CDMA (radio) and WiMAX (back end), if anything.

The myth got started simply because LTE was picked by most carriers as a path away from GSM.

The older GSM and CDMA networks will remain in place, in parallel with LTE, for another decade.
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Incorrect:

LTE is a progression of GSM's UMTS platform
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Source: http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/21/verizon-dumps-cdma-for-gsm-based-lte-in-4g-networks/
 
diamond.g said:
You always killing peoples dreams of a Verizon iPhone.... You should stop that! :D
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Heh. Figure the odds of ATT and Verizon letting their systems be compatible. Different frequencies, backend differences, and deliberate locking, all seem probable.

Even now, Verizon sells combination CDMA and GSM phones, but you can't use the GSM part in the USA. Neither they nor ATT are going to make it easy to switch between carriers, unless Congress gets involved.

That said, I still think Apple will sell a Verizon-compatible phone at some time in the future. It's been a huge goof not to sell the iPhone on every network, because it's given other makers so much free time to come up with competing handsets.

Warbrain said:
Incorrect:
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/21/verizon-dumps-cdma-for-gsm-based-lte-in-4g-networks/
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Sorry, but that was typical idiotic reporting by an obvious non-engineer. Ranks right up there with the iPhone patent nonsense. Naturally, as with most iPhone-related BS, it got repeated all over the place.

One more time: Yes, LTE was endorsed by the GSM groups. But that does not make it GSM. LTE was also endored by some CDMA carriers. That doesn't make it CDMA, either.
 
Let me add this:

Verizon and other CDMA carriers are the first to implement real life LTE networks.

That means Verizon has been the critical lead for the past year or two in specifying equipment and software standards. The first LTE hardware has been specified by Verizon, and tested with them. LTE backend software, which was not well defined before, has been firmed up by Verizon and its partners.

So the first LTE networks in use will be following Verizon driven standards. Other carriers will either follow (because it'll be cheaper to do so) or they might come up with their own modifications.
 
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