AVP User Recommendation: AVP+M1 Max MBP vs M4 Max MBP

[heretiq]

Hello MR AVP community members! I am trying to decide whether to upgrade from my 16” 32GB RAM/1TB SSD M1 Max MacBook Pro to (a) an M4 Max MacBook Pro or (b) keep my M1 Max MBP and complement it with an AVP. I believe I can get the best guidance and insights for making this decision from MR members who are actually using AVP. Thanks in advance for your consideration and insights!

My daily work includes heavy Xcode development; process modeling, process analysis and discrete event simulation and visualization using a specialized Windows app via Parallels; local MLX converted LLM hosting and fine tuning; plus heavy MS Office productivity app use. All of this is handled well by my M1 Max MacBook Pro and I was initially biased towards “trading down” to a lighter, less bulky workstation in the near future — either a M4 or M5 15” MacBook Air which I believe will offer a 32/36GB RAM configuration and finally match my M1 Max CPU and GPU performance. However, I can see a M4 Max MacBook Pro with 64GB RAM providing tangible productivity benefits right now and I’m inclined to pull the trigger on this purchase in the next 2 weeks.

We are exploring porting one of our apps to AVP and the thought of purchasing an AVP to gain first-hand experience with AVP UX and app prototyping and as an accessory to my existing, completely satisfactory M1 Max MacBook Pro is appealing. I have seen comments from several AVP users who are developers as well as avid, daily users of AVP who’ve incorporated it into their productivity system for non-development use cases. The insights from such users would be very valuable. So, before I make this decision I would appreciate input, insights, opinions and suggestions from those using or who have used AVP for productivity.

Thoughts?

 

[surferfb]

While I love my AVP, the use cases you highlight, particularly local LLM use, makes me lean MBP. While your M1 may be fine now, given how fast AI is moving, I suspect you’ll hit the M1’s limitations sooner rather than later.

I use my AVP daily (virtual display for productivity apps, entertainment, etc.) but am not doing development work, so I can’t speak to the benefits for coding, etc. I will say the ultra wide display is very nice for my use cases (generally research and writing - I live in browsers, GPTs, and Word).

 

[heretiq]

While I love my AVP, the use cases you highlight, particularly local LLM use, makes me lean MBP. While your M1 may be fine now, given how fast AI is moving, I suspect you’ll hit the M1’s limitations sooner rather than later.

I use my AVP daily (virtual display for productivity apps, entertainment, etc.) but am not doing development work, so I can’t speak to the benefits for coding, etc. I will say the ultra wide display is very nice for my use cases (generally research and writing - I live in browsers, GPTs, and Word).

Thanks @surferfb, I agree that my M1 Max MacBook Pro is likely to become increasingly challenged for LLM evaluation, training and development within the next year — hence the bias towards upgrading to the M4 Max MacBook Pro.

However, based on some comments I’ve seen from a couple developers in this forum and elsewhere, (until my M1 Max MacBook Pro actually hits a wall,) I suspect the productivity gains from adding an AVP as virtual display to my M1 Max MacBook might eclipse the productivity gains from having a faster 16” M4 Max MacBook Pro alone.

Thank you. Your comments are helpful and definitely reinforcing my inclination towards the M4 Max MacBook Pro, but I’m open to feedback on the near term impact of pairing the AVP with my current M1 Max MacBook Pro as well.

 

[Ghost31]

I’m just gonna throw my vote in for getting an avp. It’s a different experience that, if you’re into it, will add a lot of coolness to your work day. The multiple apps open in a variety of windows, multitasking, immersive environments, ultra wide screens. The excitement of seeing the vision os platform grow over the next few years. I remember having the first iPhone and how basic it felt and seeing it grow over time. Being on the ground floor of a brand new platform was just straight up fun.



The MacBook with the m1 i feel will still be good for a few years. You’ve got a decently beefy Mac that won’t be stretched to its limits for quite a while. The avp would be a more fun purchase. DO IT DO IT DO ITTTT

 

[heretiq]

I’m just gonna throw my vote in for getting an avp. It’s a different experience that, if you’re into it, will add a lot of coolness to your work day. The multiple apps open in a variety of windows, multitasking, immersive environments, ultra wide screens. The excitement of seeing the vision os platform grow over the next few years. I remember having the first iPhone and how basic it felt and seeing it grow over time. Being on the ground floor of a brand new platform was just straight up fun.



The MacBook with the m1 i feel will still be good for a few years. You’ve got a decently beefy Mac that won’t be stretched to its limits for quite a while. The avp would be a more fun purchase. DO IT DO IT DO ITTTT

Thanks @Ghost31. Apart from providing insight on the potential cool user experience and likelihood on a few more years of utility from my beefy-specced MBPro, you’ve touched on an unarticulated motivation for considering an AVP purchase.

Like the original iPhone, the AVP is the first product on a new platform. I also had the original iPhone and remember how I was wowed by the many foundational innovations it introduced - while also being relatively feature constrained.

One of my regrets is not keeping it for sentimental value. I have a sense that AVP will follow the same trajectory — and even though I suspect the first product iteration is months away, I don’t want to have a second such regret. 😂

 

[throAU]

upgrade.

AVP is not a consumer focused product yet.

 

[heretiq]

upgrade.

AVP is not a consumer focused product yet.

Thanks for the perspective @throAU. Can you elaborate? Do you think it’s an early-adopter or developer focused product or something else?

 

[Ghost31]

Thanks for the perspective @throAU. Can you elaborate? Do you think it’s an early-adopter or developer focused product or something else?

What he means is to parrot out the talking point that avp is a developer product and not ready for consumers. Despite having thousands of native Vision Pro apps, custom Apple immersive content, exciting new updates and access to more than a million iPad apps.

It’s a gen 1 product. People that hate on avp act like it’s supposed to be a gen 5 product when we’re still only on the first version.

I’ve had apple products for a couple decades. The first iPhone. First Apple Watch. First iPad. AirPods. All of it. As far as “first” products go, this is easily the most polished and ready for the consumer market. iPhone didn’t even have copy and paste or picture messaging. Or an App Store. First Apple Watch was slow, buggy, ran mostly off the iPhone and app development was slow.

If you know what you want to use the avp for, you won’t be disappointed. I knew I wanted a movie theater experience for my eyeballs at home or anywhere else as well as access to apps I use most. Reddit. Lose it. Apple News. The whole ecosystem. Luma fusion. I had the right expectations and wasn’t disappointed.

If you know why you’re getting it, you’ll make the right choice. For many, ultra wide screen alone is reason enough. It’s jaw dropping seeing it in person and having that flexibility

 

[throAU]

Thanks for the perspective @throAU. Can you elaborate? Do you think it’s an early-adopter or developer focused product or something else?

Its early adopter / dev focused, in terms of real world uses for it, it is expensive, and underdone just yet. I'm not hating on it, it's just a fact. Yes, its a generation 1 product, and in terms of what is coming, there's going to be large leaps in the next couple of years; see what happened with the Watch, iPhone, iPad, etc.

I say this as someone who's a fan of the product/concept (I've defended the product/concept on here countless times), but given your situation if there's a choice between those two options...

As someone who has done it - you'll get a significant performance jump from your M1 generation MacBook Pro upgrading to an M4 generation and you'll get a new warranty, battery, etc.

Also none of the things you mention are really doable on Vision Pro but will be much faster on an M4 generation machine vs. M1 generation. Bang for buck its no contest.

 

[heretiq]

Its early adopter / dev focused, in terms of real world uses for it, it is expensive, and underdone just yet. I'm not hating on it, it's just a fact. Yes, its a generation 1 product, and in terms of what is coming, there's going to be large leaps in the next couple of years; see what happened with the Watch, iPhone, iPad, etc.

I say this as someone who's a fan of the product/concept (I've defended the product/concept on here countless times), but given your situation if there's a choice between those two options...

As someone who has done it - you'll get a significant performance jump from your M1 generation MacBook Pro upgrading to an M4 generation and you'll get a new warranty, battery, etc.

Also none of the things you mention are really doable on Vision Pro but will be much faster on an M4 generation machine vs. M1 generation. Bang for buck its no contest.

Thanks for the explanation @throAU. I appreciate the informed and no BS perspective and totally agree that the M4 Max MBPro would give me improved horsepower to do the things I listed (Xcode development, process modeling/analysis/simulation/visualization, local LLM dev/fine tuning and MS Office Productivity apps).

My goal for the AVP would not be performing these tasks; I would continue using my M1 Max MBPro to perform them for the time being and add the AVP essentially for (1) virtual display while conducting these tasks and (2) AVP UX immersion and direct experience to provide guidance for future app redesigns for AVP.

I know this alternate AVP path would delay getting the productivity boost I expect from the M4 Max MBPro upgrade; but am wondering if I should expect minimal, modest, or marked productivity boost from leveraging AVP virtual display with my existing M1 Max MacBook Pro configuration for the identified tasks. Any thoughts on this?

 

[heretiq]

What he means is to parrot out the talking point that avp is a developer product and not ready for consumers. Despite having thousands of native Vision Pro apps, custom Apple immersive content, exciting new updates and access to more than a million iPad apps.

It’s a gen 1 product. People that hate on avp act like it’s supposed to be a gen 5 product when we’re still only on the first version.

I’ve had apple products for a couple decades. The first iPhone. First Apple Watch. First iPad. AirPods. All of it. As far as “first” products go, this is easily the most polished and ready for the consumer market. iPhone didn’t even have copy and paste or picture messaging. Or an App Store. First Apple Watch was slow, buggy, ran mostly off the iPhone and app development was slow.

If you know what you want to use the avp for, you won’t be disappointed. I knew I wanted a movie theater experience for my eyeballs at home or anywhere else as well as access to apps I use most. Reddit. Lose it. Apple News. The whole ecosystem. Luma fusion. I had the right expectations and wasn’t disappointed.

If you know why you’re getting it, you’ll make the right choice. For many, ultra wide screen alone is reason enough. It’s jaw dropping seeing it in person and having that flexibility

Thanks @Ghost31. My experience matches yours. Every 1st generation Apple product I’ve had (iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, AirPods, HomePod, AppleWatch) was satisfactory for me despite being feature limited because I bought them for what they could do at the time of purchase and not for something I envisioned they could do in the future. That track record has earned my trust that I’m not buying a half-baked product even if its scope is limited.

What I’m specifically interested in is leveraging AVP virtual display with my existing M1 Max MacBook Pro configuration for the following tasks: Xcode development, process modeling/analysis/simulation/visualization, local LLM dev/fine tuning and MS Office Productivity apps.

I know enough to believe AVP provides the desired functionality; but I am wondering if I should expect minimal, modest, or marked productivity boost from using AVP in this way. Your desired use case seems to encompass information, entertainment and productivity (Luma Fusion?) apps. Are you able to comment/speculate on what I might expect productivity-wise given your experience?

 

[throAU]

I know this alternate AVP path would delay getting the productivity boost I expect from the M4 Max MBPro upgrade; but am wondering if I should expect minimal, modest, or marked productivity boost from leveraging AVP virtual display with my existing M1 Max MacBook Pro configuration for the identified tasks. Any thoughts on this?

I haven't used AVP for that (or at all), but I have tried to do these things with a Quest 2, HoloLens, PSVR2 and Windows in the past and the devices are just not something you want to wear for a long time - no matter how good they look. The AVP is heavier than the quest 2 by about 30% - and even with a third party strap, face gasket, etc. for the quest 2 its not something you want to wear for long.

Future Potential? Yeah for sure, I've been wanting the same thing ever since I got into VR - but unless you're regularly in an environment where you need a large desktop and can't just use a monitor, wearing something this size on your head for extended periods to do this is not comfortable. Remember also - you can't sip a coffee, etc. wearing these devices - because they get in the way of the cup. Maybe drink with a straw? But still... if you haven't lived with a VR/AR device there's a number of things you don't think about that kinda suck and interfere with wearing it for more than say an hour at a time.

I can see it being a thing in future when the hardware is smaller, but for now with the size of the devices (not just AVP) they're not something you want to wear for hours at a time.

But for that, your mileage may vary - if you can get a test/demo in an Apple Store maybe try it out, but personally I think the weight, battery life and simple fact that the cost on this gear is going to crash in a few years for better equipment - I would not do it unless you're really interested in bleeding edge stuff and fully prepared for the financial hit on it.

A future AVP2 or AVP3? Yeah I'll be all over it. But for now it think its not light enough, too expensive, etc. - because its early adopter/dev at the moment. This is how I see it and reading between the lines this is where I believe apple has positioned it right now. It's to demonstrate what is technically possible - the form factor will get better.

What apple put out in only a couple of years won't just be a bit better, it will be MUCH better and I think you're better off for now upgrading the MacBook and jump on Vision Pro at that point.

 

[Ghost31]

Thanks @Ghost31. My experience matches yours. Every 1st generation Apple product I’ve had (iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, AirPods, HomePod, AppleWatch) was satisfactory for me despite being feature limited because I bought them for what they could do at the time of purchase and not for something I envisioned they could do in the future. That track record has earned my trust that I’m not buying a half-baked product even if its scope is limited.

What I’m specifically interested in is leveraging AVP virtual display with my existing M1 Max MacBook Pro configuration for the following tasks: Xcode development, process modeling/analysis/simulation/visualization, local LLM dev/fine tuning and MS Office Productivity apps.

I know enough to believe AVP provides the desired functionality; but I am wondering if I should expect minimal, modest, or marked productivity boost from using AVP in this way. Your desired use case seems to encompass information, entertainment and productivity (Luma Fusion?) apps. Are you able to comment/speculate on what I might expect productivity-wise given your experience?

Well I mean it all just depends on if ultra wide will make you more productive? I know you also said you wanted to port an app to the Vision Pro as well so in that case having an actual unit would be useful.

For me editing video is kinda insane using ultra wide. I could have a long video and see my entire timeline without having to scroll. Also being able to have other apps open and dragging and dropping easily is nice. It’s one of those things you need to see in person to appreciate. 3d modeling is also really cool as you can pull the literal 3d elements out and put them in your room and look at them from different angles. The level of detail is truly impressive. The other day I pulled an iPhone out of the apple website and the iPhone model was reflecting the light that was actually in my room. Really neat stuff

Just the fact that I’m more comfortable using the Vision Pro, the UI is friendly and easy to use and I can see more makes me more likely to do more stuff. So behavior wise it made me more productive, but that’s all person dependent.

And idk what the other guy is talking about complaining the Vision Pro is so heavy like they got the weakest pencil neck in existence. I can keep mine on for 5 hours with the solo strap without any issues. But I guess everybody’s different.

Ya know what’s weird though? When I first did a demo at the Apple Store it hurt my head a bit. Getting it home it didn’t hurt at all. Glad i didn’t listen to first impressions. I listened to people like the other commenter and put off getting my Vision Pro from launch all the way until December 2024. Then after 3 demos and talking myself out of it for almost a year, I gave in. And I found all those little things people complained about didn’t apply to me one bit. My avp is my favorite Apple device

When I heard people complaining about the weight, the feeling I got was oh man…this thing must be a chonker. Idk if I want that. But when I got it I didn’t notice the weight at all. Feels same as my quest 3. Apple has a solid return policy so if you’re able to, I’d say give it a try with the option to return

 

[heretiq]

Well I mean it all just depends on if ultra wide will make you more productive? I know you also said you wanted to port an app to the Vision Pro as well so in that case having an actual unit would be useful.

For me editing video is kinda insane using ultra wide. I could have a long video and see my entire timeline without having to scroll. Also being able to have other apps open and dragging and dropping easily is nice. It’s one of those things you need to see in person to appreciate. 3d modeling is also really cool as you can pull the literal 3d elements out and put them in your room and look at them from different angles. The level of detail is truly impressive. The other day I pulled an iPhone out of the apple website and the iPhone model was reflecting the light that was actually in my room. Really neat stuff

Just the fact that I’m more comfortable using the Vision Pro, the UI is friendly and easy to use and I can see more makes me more likely to do more stuff. So behavior wise it made me more productive, but that’s all person dependent.

And idk what the other guy is talking about complaining the Vision Pro is so heavy like they got the weakest pencil neck in existence. I can keep mine on for 5 hours with the solo strap without any issues. But I guess everybody’s different.

Ya know what’s weird though? When I first did a demo at the Apple Store it hurt my head a bit. Getting it home it didn’t hurt at all. Glad i didn’t listen to first impressions. I listened to people like the other commenter and put off getting my Vision Pro from launch all the way until December 2024. Then after 3 demos and talking myself out of it for almost a year, I gave in. And I found all those little things people complained about didn’t apply to me one bit. My avp is my favorite Apple device

When I heard people complaining about the weight, the feeling I got was oh man…this thing must be a chonker. Idk if I want that. But when I got it I didn’t notice the weight at all. Feels same as my quest 3. Apple has a solid return policy so if you’re able to, I’d say give it a try with the option to return

Thanks. This is very helpful. The weight is a common criticism so I appreciate your feedback that weight is not universally experienced from someone who uses AVP for extended periods of time. Your experience with ultra wide is also I interesting as I imagine using it to improve Xcode productivity by viewing code on a fully mirrored Mac 4K display flanked by safari and NotePlan for reference. Can you comment on text clarity in ultrawide mode?

 

[Ghost31]

Thanks. This is very helpful. The weight is a common criticism so I appreciate your feedback that weight is not universally experienced from someone who uses AVP for extended periods of time. Your experience with ultra wide is also I interesting as I imagine using it to improve Xcode productivity by viewing code on a fully mirrored Mac 4K display flanked by safari and NotePlan for reference. Can you comment on text clarity in ultrawide mode?

Yeah, the weight thing I was really surprised about because I took a chance getting the Vision Pro always having what people were saying in the back of my mind about how heavy it was and was pleasantly surprised that I could wear it all day. My wife can also wear it for long period of time as well. Not sure why some people can wear it for long period of time and others can’t. I’m a bigger guy and I can wear it all day and my wife is 120 pounds of cuteness and she can also wear it for long periods of time so I guess it really just depends on the person

In my day-to-day operations, I will have Mac virtual display with apps that have smaller text that I have to have be readable and it works great. I’ll have LumaFusion or final cut in the center with the entire timeline exposed and then I will have notes or something. I am typing or referencing on the right side and it’s perfectly readable. I tried doing this exact thing on the quest three using the immersed app and it just wasn’t a pleasant experience. The Vision Pro is the first headset. I felt like I could do all my work in. a couple days ago for example, when I was working, I had a five hour session where I had to keep going back-and-forth between research notes that I had as well as graphs and formulas, and everything looked perfect. As someone with some pretty serious ADHD I gotta say I feel a lot more focused when I’m wearing this versus when I’m just working normally. I can turn on an environment and just completely shut off the world and all I have is my work in front of me on giant 100 foot screens


My only complaint is that it completely spoiled me in that I can’t really go back to a normal monitor. I went back to a giant monitor when I had to switch locations for a day and even a 32 inch high resolution monitor at the office felt tiny and I was increasingly frustrated that I couldn’t move it around, and I was stuck at a desk. It also changes your habits where you see something and you expect to look at the corner and be able to resize it or something and you can’t do it because you forget you’re not even wearing your Vision Pro lol it also gives you more freedom in that you don’t have to stay at the exact location. Your Mac is you aren’t constrained by a desk at all. You can connect and then just take the window with you and walk away so if I wanna go from my desk to sitting on the couch and doing my work there with a wireless keyboard, I can do that and not feel compromised one bit. my workspace can be wherever I want it to be

 

[Ghost31]

Thanks. This is very helpful. The weight is a common criticism so I appreciate your feedback that weight is not universally experienced from someone who uses AVP for extended periods of time. Your experience with ultra wide is also I interesting as I imagine using it to improve Xcode productivity by viewing code on a fully mirrored Mac 4K display flanked by safari and NotePlan for reference. Can you comment on text clarity in ultrawide mode?

Crispy

 

[Ghost31]

I’m not working right now, but just to give you an idea text clarity

 

[heretiq]

Yeah, the weight thing I was really surprised about because I took a chance getting the Vision Pro always having what people were saying in the back of my mind about how heavy it was and was pleasantly surprised that I could wear it all day. My wife can also wear it for long period of time as well. Not sure why some people can wear it for long period of time and others can’t. I’m a bigger guy and I can wear it all day and my wife is 120 pounds of cuteness and she can also wear it for long periods of time so I guess it really just depends on the person

In my day-to-day operations, I will have Mac virtual display with apps that have smaller text that I have to have be readable and it works great. I’ll have LumaFusion or final cut in the center with the entire timeline exposed and then I will have notes or something. I am typing or referencing on the right side and it’s perfectly readable. I tried doing this exact thing on the quest three using the immersed app and it just wasn’t a pleasant experience. The Vision Pro is the first headset. I felt like I could do all my work in. a couple days ago for example, when I was working, I had a five hour session where I had to keep going back-and-forth between research notes that I had as well as graphs and formulas, and everything looked perfect. As someone with some pretty serious ADHD I gotta say I feel a lot more focused when I’m wearing this versus when I’m just working normally. I can turn on an environment and just completely shut off the world and all I have is my work in front of me on giant 100 foot screens


My only complaint is that it completely spoiled me in that I can’t really go back to a normal monitor. I went back to a giant monitor when I had to switch locations for a day and even a 32 inch high resolution monitor at the office felt tiny and I was increasingly frustrated that I couldn’t move it around, and I was stuck at a desk. It also changes your habits where you see something and you expect to look at the corner and be able to resize it or something and you can’t do it because you forget you’re not even wearing your Vision Pro lol it also gives you more freedom in that you don’t have to stay at the exact location. Your Mac is you aren’t constrained by a desk at all. You can connect and then just take the window with you and walk away so if I wanna go from my desk to sitting on the couch and doing my work there with a wireless keyboard, I can do that and not feel compromised one bit. my workspace can be wherever I want it to be

Thanks Ghost. This kind of experience-based input is very informative and helpful. Thanks for taking the time to elaborate and share your experience and perspective. Much appreciated.

 

[heretiq]

I’m not working right now, but just to give you an idea text clarity


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Thanks again @Ghost31. The screenshots and this video are very helpful. Thanks for adding them! I know that scrernshots and videos may not exactly convey the experience. Is the actual experience comparable / worse / better than what’s presented in these?

 

[heretiq]

I haven't used AVP for that (or at all), but I have tried to do these things with a Quest 2, HoloLens, PSVR2 and Windows in the past and the devices are just not something you want to wear for a long time - no matter how good they look. The AVP is heavier than the quest 2 by about 30% - and even with a third party strap, face gasket, etc. for the quest 2 its not something you want to wear for long.

Future Potential? Yeah for sure, I've been wanting the same thing ever since I got into VR - but unless you're regularly in an environment where you need a large desktop and can't just use a monitor, wearing something this size on your head for extended periods to do this is not comfortable. Remember also - you can't sip a coffee, etc. wearing these devices - because they get in the way of the cup. Maybe drink with a straw? But still... if you haven't lived with a VR/AR device there's a number of things you don't think about that kinda suck and interfere with wearing it for more than say an hour at a time.

I can see it being a thing in future when the hardware is smaller, but for now with the size of the devices (not just AVP) they're not something you want to wear for hours at a time.

But for that, your mileage may vary - if you can get a test/demo in an Apple Store maybe try it out, but personally I think the weight, battery life and simple fact that the cost on this gear is going to crash in a few years for better equipment - I would not do it unless you're really interested in bleeding edge stuff and fully prepared for the financial hit on it.

A future AVP2 or AVP3? Yeah I'll be all over it. But for now it think its not light enough, too expensive, etc. - because its early adopter/dev at the moment. This is how I see it and reading between the lines this is where I believe apple has positioned it right now. It's to demonstrate what is technically possible - the form factor will get better.

What apple put out in only a couple of years won't just be a bit better, it will be MUCH better and I think you're better off for now upgrading the MacBook and jump on Vision Pro at that point.

Thanks for the perspective @throAU. I am well prepared for the financial hit of an AVP purchase and success wont be measured in terms of ROI. Success for me would be greater productivity in my core tasks and direct experience with using AVP for productivity.

I was prepared for this on day 1 but reasoned that wasn’t a practical expectation at the time. Since then Apple has enhanced the OS and added features such as Mac ultrawide virtual displays that on paper could change my assessment — so getting feedback on the current experience using AVP for productivity is helpful.

 

[Ghost31]

Thanks again @Ghost31. The screenshots and this video are very helpful. Thanks for adding them! I know that scrernshots and videos may not exactly convey the experience. Is the actual experience comparable / worse / better than what’s presented in these?

The actual experience is definitely more clear and vibrant. The screen record is capped at 1080 I think (and compression) vs 4k per eye on the Vision Pro and the screenshots are difficult to show clarity with foveated rendering. It’s one of those things that just looks better in person. Have you done a demo? I did 3 before getting mine

 

[heretiq]

The actual experience is definitely more clear and vibrant. The screen record is capped at 1080 I think (and compression) vs 4k per eye on the Vision Pro and the screenshots are difficult to show clarity with foveated rendering. It’s one of those things that just looks better in person. Have you done a demo? I did 3 before getting mine

Thank you. I was concerned about being redundant with that last question since you’ve been so helpful with providing details based on your experience, but I’m glad I asked and really appreciate your reply because it puts everything into perspective!

I haven’t done a demo yet. Right now I’m working remotely in southern Thailand and AVP is not officially available in the country — so I would need to make a day trip to Hong Kong for an Apple Store demo. I’ll be back in the US in 3 weeks and will schedule a demo for the day after I return!

 

[throAU]

the discomfort is nothing to do with my neck. maybe it’s because of the heat where i live. either way. if you’re prepared to spend go for it.

 

[Ghost31]

Thank you. I was concerned about being redundant with that last question since you’ve been so helpful with providing details based on your experience, but I’m glad I asked and really appreciate your reply because it puts everything into perspective!

I haven’t done a demo yet. Right now I’m working remotely in southern Thailand and AVP is not officially available in the country — so I would need to make a day trip to Hong Kong for an Apple Store demo. I’ll be back in the US in 3 weeks and will schedule a demo for the day after I return!

If you do a demo when you get back, feel free to come back and post about your experience. Always love hearing about new people trying it for the first time

 

[cmbarclay]

You could do like I did, buy a used one on eBay with AppleCare, took the sting out of the price and it’s really an awesome addition to my Apple devices I have. Now watching a show on my TV or iPad is boring @ghost gave a great example of what it’s like to use one.