What to do if a macbook air M2 shows 90% battery health after just and just 13 months and 189 cycles. Usage mostly includes light tasks and it's often plugged in. Is it normal? Could staying plugged in most of the time be a factor?
Well you can take my opinion or not, but it is rather and unpopular one though I’ve tested it on DOZEN of Apple devices, not just my main MBA M1 (2020) which I purchased in the summer 2022.and it's often plugged in. Is it normal? Could staying plugged in most of the time be a factor?
I see. Thank you for your suggestions. where did you see other people reporting this issue. Don't you think asking them what happened next would be beneficial90% capacity after the first year is a worse capacity drop than normal but I've seen a few other users report similar. Hopefully your second year will stabilize.
As for charging practices...
Staying plugged in supposedly isn't too bad, but frequent off/on top-offs back to 100% after light use unplugged is rumored to be the second worst thing you can do to a battery (with a full discharge the absolute worst).
If/when you take it off the charger I would suggest leaving it unplugged until normal use brings it down to <60% before putting it back on (unless you know you will need a full charge the next day).
Thabks! another question 😬 If battery health’s on and it stays cool with light use, is keeping it plugged in or using it while charging really that bad?Well you can take my opinion or not, but it is rather and unpopular one though I’ve tested it on DOZEN of Apple devices, not just my main MBA M1 (2020) which I purchased in the summer 2022.
First things first, heat is destroying batteries. Slowly but steadily. As I noticed, new Macbooks with passive cooling barely heat at most tasks, and it is better to keep it that way or else there is even a risk to get pillowed battery and basically destroyed laptop.
Secondly, no. In my opinion it is NOT normal to have Macbooks constantly plugged in, especially given that the stock battery life is more than 20 hours (mine 16 hehe, now close to 15 maybe but still good).
Macbook is a portable device that has a battery, so you need to push every single volt out of it! (I drain it old-school until it is 5-10% battery, rarely drain it full). People who buy sportcars don’t buy them to move 20 km/h around their village. They often love to flex the sound of V6 or V8 so that whole neiborhood will hear and scream at them🤣
Thirdly, THE WORST (in my opinion, again) thing you can do to your Mac laptop is using it while it is charging.
Apple still done nothing to prevent heating during charging while using device. And it is across all their devices - iPads, iPhones and MacBooks. It is physics and you can’t really fool it, maybe buying a thermal pad but honestly it is not worth it. In fact, when you use your Macbook while it is charging you basically cooking the battery on low heat, it is very detrimental to battery life and this is basically how I destroyed my iPad battery back in the days.
The best strategy is to drain the battery to low state (10% ideally) and then shut down the laptop thru finder (don’t put to sleep or just close the lid!! This is not enough) and then plug the charger.
New Macbooks don’t feature the charging dial on their body (it was green back in the days when battery full), so how would you know Mac is charged? Quite simple: touch the charging brick and if it is no longer warm and ideally cool - battery is 100%.
So why is this so detrimental?
Well, default Macbook charging brick is 60W. It is a lot of power and it will charge Mac fast enough, around 2-3 hours and battery is usually full. Thus this generates lots of heat.
My Mac is 3 years old already and right now at 91%. From the day one I used the method I described.
OTHER GOOD TIPS:
- use only original charger from Apple. The one that came in your box. Or buy from Apple if you have no charger. This ensures steady and good charging. While charging is technically “just power hehe, watts and volts”, not so easy nowadays: new Apple devices feature lots of under-the-hood tech to prevent drain and overcharge and off market and not Apple-approved stuff can f with it. So while buying a 2000$ computer or 1000$ iDevice it is better not to cheap out on chargers;
- try not to use Macbook in overly hot environment. The cooler the place the better. Think of it as if it was a living creature: I guess you won’t go without a cap for a walk at midday during a 32+ Celsius heat, and Macbook in that sense is even much more “cold blooded”;
- What to do if you need your Mac but it is drained?? Well if you can afford, charge it and use but unplug as soon as you get 25-30% charged and then use it, it will be enough for you to finish your job and at the same time not to damage battery.
Side notes: all modern EVs have coolers that constantly cool the batteries, especially during charging. Because charging is usually done at super high powered stations. Same for electric power supplies like Bluetti or Jackery - when they are charged at 800W+ they use cooling fans. My Bluetti even had this thing written in manual that one should use only slow charging (800W instead of standard 1600 or supercharging at 2200) to prolong battery life.
I hope that helps!![]()
I'd say that's on the low side. My M1 Pro from 2021 is on 94% and 214 cycles. But of course the decay is not necessarily linear, so you might not lose another 10% in another 13 months.What to do if a macbook air M2 shows 90% battery health after just and just 13 months and 189 cycles. Usage mostly includes light tasks and it's often plugged in. Is it normal? Could staying plugged in most of the time be a factor?
Where: MacRummors, discussions.apple, and similar tech forums. Reports feel rare with months between complaints. The absolute worst I ever saw claimed 85% at 166 cycles. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ry-health-at-85-with-only-166-cycles.2446440/I see. Thank you for your suggestions. where did you see other people reporting this issue. Don't you think asking them what happened next would be beneficial
That is so true.But ultimately, you should use the laptop as you need to: not tailor your usage to the needs of the battery.
Excellent article. Trust the experts, not some random guy on reddit.Second, I'd rather ask trusted repair providers or tech researches who have seen a larger sample size. https://www.ifixit.com/News/31716/how-to-care-for-your-laptops-battery-so-it-lasts-longer
Definitely no one wants that. Can i use it while charger is plugged in? is it harmful for battery or no?lose another 10% in another 13 months
I think it's for Apple only. So you kept that one mostly plugged in too and it didn’t seem to affect battery health much?Sometimes you get extremely lucky, sometimes not so much.
Yes. I don't think anyone will try to stop you from doing so.Can i use it while charger is plugged in?
Didn't see it mentioned, but if it's mostly plugged in, you might want to consider installing AlDente app to prevent the battery from getting charged to and staying charged at 100% all the time.Usage mostly includes light tasks and it's often plugged in.
Seems like this is your opinion on how you want it to work. I was told plugging it in at all times actually saves battery. Mine has always been plugged in since January and battery is still 100%.Well you can take my opinion or not, but it is rather and unpopular one though I’ve tested it on DOZEN of Apple devices, not just my main MBA M1 (2020) which I purchased in the summer 2022.
First things first, heat is destroying batteries. Slowly but steadily. As I noticed, new Macbooks with passive cooling barely heat at most tasks, and it is better to keep it that way or else there is even a risk to get pillowed battery and basically destroyed laptop.
Secondly, no. In my opinion it is NOT normal to have Macbooks constantly plugged in, especially given that the stock battery life is more than 20 hours (mine 16 hehe, now close to 15 maybe but still good).
Macbook is a portable device that has a battery, so you need to push every single volt out of it! (I drain it old-school until it is 5-10% battery, rarely drain it full). People who buy sportcars don’t buy them to move 20 km/h around their village. They often love to flex the sound of V6 or V8 so that whole neiborhood will hear and scream at them🤣
Thirdly, THE WORST (in my opinion, again) thing you can do to your Mac laptop is using it while it is charging.
Apple still done nothing to prevent heating during charging while using device. And it is across all their devices - iPads, iPhones and MacBooks. It is physics and you can’t really fool it, maybe buying a thermal pad but honestly it is not worth it. In fact, when you use your Macbook while it is charging you basically cooking the battery on low heat, it is very detrimental to battery life and this is basically how I destroyed my iPad battery back in the days.
The best strategy is to drain the battery to low state (10% ideally) and then shut down the laptop thru finder (don’t put to sleep or just close the lid!! This is not enough) and then plug the charger.
New Macbooks don’t feature the charging dial on their body (it was green back in the days when battery full), so how would you know Mac is charged? Quite simple: touch the charging brick and if it is no longer warm and ideally cool - battery is 100%.
So why is this so detrimental?
Well, default Macbook charging brick is 60W. It is a lot of power and it will charge Mac fast enough, around 2-3 hours and battery is usually full. Thus this generates lots of heat.
My Mac is 3 years old already and right now at 91%. From the day one I used the method I described.
OTHER GOOD TIPS:
- use only original charger from Apple. The one that came in your box. Or buy from Apple if you have no charger. This ensures steady and good charging. While charging is technically “just power hehe, watts and volts”, not so easy nowadays: new Apple devices feature lots of under-the-hood tech to prevent drain and overcharge and off market and not Apple-approved stuff can f with it. So while buying a 2000$ computer or 1000$ iDevice it is better not to cheap out on chargers;
- try not to use Macbook in overly hot environment. The cooler the place the better. Think of it as if it was a living creature: I guess you won’t go without a cap for a walk at midday during a 32+ Celsius heat, and Macbook in that sense is even much more “cold blooded”;
- What to do if you need your Mac but it is drained?? Well if you can afford, charge it and use but unplug as soon as you get 25-30% charged and then use it, it will be enough for you to finish your job and at the same time not to damage battery.
Side notes: all modern EVs have coolers that constantly cool the batteries, especially during charging. Because charging is usually done at super high powered stations. Same for electric power supplies like Bluetti or Jackery - when they are charged at 800W+ they use cooling fans. My Bluetti even had this thing written in manual that one should use only slow charging (800W instead of standard 1600 or supercharging at 2200) to prolong battery life.
I hope that helps!![]()
My thought exactly. The battery is a consumable part. Ignore the "health" metric and charge it when you need to. And a few years down the road when a 100% battery charge isn't getting you as much time as you want, you get it replaced by Apple for $159.Who is telling you to worry about this?
In my opinion there is no need to charge a charged enough battery. Battery cells need to be put at some work. So you drain battery, charge while Macbook turned off, the use, drain and repeatThabks! another question 😬 If battery health’s on and it stays cool with light use, is keeping it plugged in or using it while charging really that bad?
Indeed, totally my opinion and I understand when people disagree with it.Seems like this is your opinion on how you want it to work. I was told plugging it in at all times actually saves battery. Mine has always been plugged in since January and battery is still 100%.
The more you cycle it the faster it will wear out.In my opinion there is no need to charge a charged enough battery. Battery cells need to be put at some work. So you drain battery, charge while Macbook turned off, the use, drain and repeat
Apple has a setting to do this called "Optimized Battery Charging".I have owned it for 7 months and am still at 100% life and only 15 cycles. I keep it in SAILING mode at 50%. I charge to 100% if I am expecting to need max battery.
I run plugged in most of the time but ALDENTE manages heat and controls charging.