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torbjornhb

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Hi.
Bought the iPhone 14 Pro on launch day, and since this is my primary with device along with my MacBook Air M2, I use it quite extensively. Never gaming, just browsing the web, taking photos, listening to podcasts, etc..

The last months he battery health have been reduced from 98% to 93%, of which the last 3% flew away to Nowhereland within just the last week.

I suspected that there might be something wrong with the phone and called Apple which advised me to take a clean install and not use the backup when I set it up again. Since this is quite a job, I just checked the battery status, and I see that it's already taken 299 cycles.

So, the drop in battery health might just bee a result from normal "wear and tear", and nothing abnormal. Our what do you think?
 
called Apple which advised me to take a clean install
That is their recommendation for literally any issue. Forget it...

The iPhone batteries are rated to retain 80% capacity after 500 cycles. Your cycle count of 299 within just 7 months indicates that on average the battery gets fully depleted more than once per day which I'd consider intense usage.

You used more than half of the battery life span in such a short time, after 500 cycles the capacity will eventually fall below 80% and then Apple considers it defective and would replace it if there was warranty left. If you keep using it like this you will go past 500 cycles sometime in September, right around the time the one year default warranty expires.

If you keep up this intense usage, I'd get AC+ now if you don't have it (within the first year you can ask for an evaluation of the device in stores, appointment needed, afterwards the AC+ purchase option will be enabled), there is a good chance the battery won't even stay above 80% in the 2nd year, at which point you can get a free AC+ battery replacement, that pays for the AC+ itself.

I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone, it's just that with how much you use it, you can expect to require a battery replacement every 1-1.5 years, hence the AC+ suggestion, though whether that pays off remains a gamble. Sometimes batteries unexpectedly end up lasting "forever". Though I doubt it with your use and it already being at 90% now.

Without a free warranty replacement (that requires less than 80%), you can still keep using the phone as is for as long as you want. But you will likely notice a significant decrease in battery runtime, especially once it goes below 80%. My older iPhone is at 78% and I can easily charge it 3x per day now with how soon it gives out. So you should be aware that you'll likely want a new battery.

If I were you, I'd get AC+ immediately, and a charger that can do 30W, the iPhone 14 Pro can pull around 25W max, which is more than the regular iPhone chargers or the iPad charger can deliver.
 
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That is their recommendation for literally any issue. Forget it...

The iPhone batteries are rated to retain 80% capacity after 500 cycles. Your cycle count of 299 within just 7 months indicates that on average the battery gets fully depleted more than once per day which I'd consider intense usage.

You used more than half of the battery life span in such a short time, after 500 cycles the capacity will eventually fall below 80% and then Apple considers it defective and would replace it if there was warranty left. If you keep using it like this you will go past 500 cycles sometime in September, right around the time the one year default warranty expires.

If you keep up this intense usage, I'd get AC+ now if you don't have it (within the first year you can ask for an evaluation of the device in stores, appointment needed, afterwards the AC+ purchase option will be enabled), there is a good chance the battery won't even stay above 80% in the 2nd year, at which point you can get a free AC+ battery replacement, that pays for the AC+ itself.

I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone, it's just that with how much you use it, you can expect to require a battery replacement every 1-1.5 years, hence the AC+ suggestion, though whether that pays off remains a gamble. Sometimes batteries unexpectedly end up lasting "forever". Though I doubt it with your use and it already being at 90% now.

Without a free warranty replacement (that requires less than 80%), you can still keep using the phone as is for as long as you want. But you will likely notice a significant decrease in battery runtime, especially once it goes below 80%. My older iPhone is at 78% and I can easily charge it 3x per day now with how soon it gives out. So you should be aware that you'll likely want a new battery.

If I were you, I'd get AC+ immediately, and a charger that can do 30W, the iPhone 14 Pro can pull around 25W max, which is more than the regular iPhone chargers or the iPad charger can deliver.

Thanks for your informative answer .
Yes, I agree. I'm probably just using it heavily. I charge it more than one every day - by far. AC+ is too late to but now. I guess I'll just keep using it till the new iPhone 15 Pro is out, and then I'll sell it a with reduced pricing.
If, in the meantime, anything should happen that indicates that something is wrong with the phone, I have to send it to Apple for a check.
 
AC+ is too late
No it is not, you can call Apple and tell them you'd like to add AC+ to your device and would like to make an evaluation appointment in an Apple Store to see if your device is eligible for adding AC+ after the 60 day timer. This is not something Apple advertises and I can't guarantee every employee on the phone will immediately know about it, but once they transfer you to a department responsible for handling AC+ inquiries there should be no issue.

In the store they will only need your iPhone for a couple minutes to run diagnostics on it, that checks that the hardware is okay, and they will visually inspect it to make sure there is no physical damage to it. (And if they ask why you suddenly want AC+ you don't have to mention the battery issue again.)

Then you get the iPhone back and 24-48 hours later in your device settings you will see that the notification for AC+ has returned, and then you have a couple days to buy it. This is usually possible within the entirety of the default one year warranty period.

Apple does not guarantee that every device will be eligible for this evaluation, and not every device ends up having the AC+ option reenabled afterwards. But there is no harm in trying and often it works. After all, AC+ in most cases is never needed and Apple profits from it. So the more people sign up, the more $$$ for Apple.

I can't guarantee you that your battery will get replaced under AC+, but personally I'd bet that your battery won't survive the full 2 years.
 
No it is not, you can call Apple and tell them you'd like to add AC+ to your device and would like to make an evaluation appointment in an Apple Store to see if your device is eligible for adding AC+ after the 60 day timer. This is not something Apple advertises and I can't guarantee every employee on the phone will immediately know about it, but once they transfer you to a department responsible for handling AC+ inquiries there should be no issue.

In the store they will only need your iPhone for a couple minutes to run diagnostics on it, that checks that the hardware is okay, and they will visually inspect it to make sure there is no physical damage to it. (And if they ask why you suddenly want AC+ you don't have to mention the battery issue again.)

Then you get the iPhone back and 24-48 hours later in your device settings you will see that the notification for AC+ has returned, and then you have a couple days to buy it. This is usually possible within the entirety of the default one year warranty period.

Apple does not guarantee that every device will be eligible for this evaluation, and not every device ends up having the AC+ option reenabled afterwards. But there is no harm in trying and often it works. After all, AC+ in most cases is never needed and Apple profits from it. So the more people sign up, the more $$$ for Apple.

I can't guarantee you that your battery will get replaced under AC+, but personally I'd bet that your battery won't survive the full 2 years.

Thanks.
I don't leave close to an Apple Store though, so I would need to send it to Apple.
 
299 cycles is moderate use and you should see some battery degradation.

So, the drop in battery health might just bee a result from normal "wear and tear", and nothing abnormal. Our what do you think?

299 cycles in 7 months is somewhat more than moderate, it's quite high.

It's about 230 days since launch so it's getting roughly 1.3 charge cycles per day.

I'd say it's about right for the usage.
 
299 cycles in 7 months is somewhat more than moderate, it's quite high.

It's about 230 days since launch so it's getting roughly 1.3 charge cycles per day.

I'd say it's about right for the usage.

Thanks :)
Yes. Try running a business and keeping your own big website up to date from an iPhone! I almost can defend buying a second one :)
 
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Designed cycles: 500
Cycles used: 299
Used: 40%

Your battery capacity should be 88% based on the numbers above. If anything iOS is already being optimistic.
 
It's not expensive to get a battery replaced by Apple, and it's certainly cheaper than paying for Apple Care.

Just use your device and replace the battery when it needs it.
 
OP, you have the latest iPhone on its original iOS version. Don’t worry about battery health, it’s irrelevant even if you put in 1800 cycles.
 
Hi.
Bought the iPhone 14 Pro on launch day, and since this is my primary with device along with my MacBook Air M2, I use it quite extensively. Never gaming, just browsing the web, taking photos, listening to podcasts, etc..

The last months he battery health have been reduced from 98% to 93%, of which the last 3% flew away to Nowhereland within just the last week.

I suspected that there might be something wrong with the phone and called Apple which advised me to take a clean install and not use the backup when I set it up again. Since this is quite a job, I just checked the battery status, and I see that it's already taken 299 cycles.

So, the drop in battery health might just bee a result from normal "wear and tear", and nothing abnormal. Our what do you think?
299 cycles..
is that iphone 12 or what ?
 
I don’t think 93% health is bad after 300 cycles. They’re designed to maintain at least 80% or more after 500 cycles.

Try plugging it in and topping it up whenever you can rather than deep discharge cycles to limit battery degradation.

Or just don’t worry about the battery and just use it then change the battery when needed.
 
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