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Juan007

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Amazing that the AirPods 4th Gen can be total crap, completely useless for anyone doing any athletic activity, while the Beats Pro Fit surpasses any AirPods I have ever used, by far, even models that came out much more recently (Beats Pro Fit is a ~4 yr old model?).

The only bad thing I can say about Beats Pro Fit is the case looks like it was designed in about 2005 with about 5 cents worth of plastic. It looks and feels like junk. Of course, the case is about .0001% of the user experience, so does it really matter?

EVERYTHING else about Beats Pro Fit is amazing. The fit is perfect. I went for a run today, I didn't have to adjust them even once, and I even set a new PR. They stay in, they don't fall out. INCREDIBLE improvement over garbage AirPods Gen 4.

The BUTTONS on the Beats Pro Fit ACTUALLY WORK, you can actually press them with intent, they are real buttons not some garbage taptic nonsense that MISDETECTS TOUCHES as button presses. The "buttons" on the AirPods were worse than useless, the buttons on the Pro Fit are actually USEFUL. Yes, imagine that Tim Cook, buttons that are actually USEFUL TO THE USER. Who would have imagined that?!?

Unfortunately for Apple, the comparison here between Beats Pro Fit and the newest AirPods shows just how much the mighty have fallen. Dr. Dre is a MUSIC PRODUCER and rapper, yet he is able to out-engineer Tim Cook and crew, supposedly the best product designers in the world?!? How did this happen??? And yes, I know Beats is owned by Apple, but the design is straight from Dre. It is LIGHT YEARS better than the Apple design. It's not even close.

TIM COOK - stop making user-hostile product. I don't care what you have to do, fire yourself and make Dr. Dre the new CEO. What you are doing IS NOT WORKING. You are making garbage and your users are fed up. You are getting out-designed by a RAPPER (a great rapper, but still).
 
Are you aware that Beats Pro Fit are designed specifically for the purposes you describe, whereas AirPods are not? Apple lets the Beats and AirPods brands each do its own thing, they could have shut Beats down years ago (they bought it from Dr. Dre in 2014, Dre is seemingly not actively involved anymore).
 
Are you aware that Beats Pro Fit are designed specifically for the purposes you describe, whereas AirPods are not? Apple lets the Beats and AirPods brands each do its own thing, they could have shut Beats down years ago (they bought it from Dr. Dre in 2014, Dre is seemingly not actively involved anymore).

Dre leads the QA software teams at Apple.
 
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The only bad thing I can say about Beats Pro Fit is the case
Agreed. It's too big, too slippery, and nearly impossible to open with one hand.

[EDIT] There is a second bad thing, though, and actually worse than the case. The wingtips can tear, so if you just bought yours, I suggest paying the $30 for Apple Care, and be extra careful about not handling them by the wingtips. Be very careful when you wipe them clean, as it's very easy to stress the wingtip. Both of mine were replaced under Apple Care, but the only way to avoid a service fee under AC is to drop them at the Apple Store and pick them up when the replacements arrive.
The fit is perfect. I went for a run today, I didn't have to adjust them even once, and I even set a new PR. They stay in, they don't fall out.
Agreed. And third party tips are available.
The BUTTONS on the Beats Pro Fit ACTUALLY WORK
My favorite feature. I live in a cold climate and love being able to use the buttons while wearing gloves and a knit cap under a hoodie.
 
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Are you aware that Beats Pro Fit are designed specifically for the purposes you describe, whereas AirPods are not?
Completely and utterly FALSE, go watch the original AirPods keynote and you will see PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES doing their thing while wearing AirPods. They were DESIGNED for athletes but somewhere down the line Timmy & Co decided to increase profit margins (?) or maybe decided to re-market AirPods to people that haven't touched grass since Obama was president (because if you lean over an touch grass, your AirPods Gen 4 WILL Fall out).

I will correct you though because there is a hint of truth in what you wrote:

BOTH the AirPods and Beats Pro Fit are designed specifically for the purpose I describe (running / athletics).

The Beats Pro Fit are a SUCCESSFUL DESIGN.

The AirPods Gen 4 are an ABJECT FAILURE.
 
Completely and utterly FALSE, go watch the original AirPods keynote and you will see PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES doing their thing while wearing AirPods. They were DESIGNED for athletes but somewhere down the line Timmy & Co decided to increase profit margins (?) or maybe decided to re-market AirPods to people that haven't touched grass since Obama was president (because if you lean over an touch grass, your AirPods Gen 4 WILL Fall out).

I will correct you though because there is a hint of truth in what you wrote:

BOTH the AirPods and Beats Pro Fit are designed specifically for the purpose I describe (running / athletics).

The Beats Pro Fit are a SUCCESSFUL DESIGN.

The AirPods Gen 4 are an ABJECT FAILURE.
Don’t be fooled by Apple’s marketing. They always act like AirPods are a perfect fit that will never fall out but everyone has different ears of course.

Trust your own logic. Beats have wingtips. AirPods don’t. So the Beats serve a specific purpose and AirPods are for general use.

I’m stating the obvious here but this was my reasoning for my comment.
 
I have both the Beats Fit Pro (three years old and the batteries are still going strong) and newer AirPods Pro 2 (bought about a year ago). The only things better about the APP2 over the Beats are adaptive mode (boy, I wish the BFP had that - I am constantly switching between transparency and noise canceling when I am out on a run) and the new hearing aid mode, which I don't need all that much, but sometimes it would be helpful.

But I have done a couple of runs with the APP2 with adaptive mode on and it's nearly perfect - it noise cancels when it starts getting noisy (cars approaching, particularly on wet roads; lawnmowers and chainsaws etc.) and ups the transparency when it is not so noisy. But I've had a bud get knocked out when running in a place with trees that knock the side of my head, and the BFP are perfect for that - they never fall out.

I'm hoping that there will be a new model of the Beats Fit Pro which will adopt the newer H2 chip at a minimum so that it will support the same hearing protection features of the APP2.
 
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I can just imagine how the conversations at Apple HQ went.

Tim: How's the AirPods 4 project coming along, underling?
Underling: Well the good news is that they look smaller and cooler than ever.
Tim: Great, ship it.
Underling: ... but the problem is they don't work at all, they keep falling out of people's ears. Every time someone moves their head or the wind blows they fall out. We even tried them on Lenin's dead corpse, they still fell out.
Tim: Who cares, ship it, time to burn all the goodwill Steve spent his lifetime creating.
Underling: Maybe we can spend some more R&D money so they actually work instead of just looking cool?
Tim: No sorry, we spent all the money on some parade for a dictator, time to SHIP IT yesterday.

Doc: Yo, how's the Beats Pro Fit project my homie?
Dude: Well I have good news and bad news DRE. The good news is that they work perfectly, everyone loves the product from star athletes to dudes on MacRumors.
Doc: Well that's great brotha, what could the bad news be my G?
Dude: Well we forgot to design a case for these things, we don't have anything that looks cool at all.
Doc: Aint no thing but a chicken wing, just ship some case design from the Rio MP3 players back in the 1990s, the important thing is THE USABILITY and you nailed it. It don't matter one bit what the case looks like, all that matters is usability.
Dude: Done!
 
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