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devilstrider

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Before 2010 MacBook Air, there was 2004 Sony

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Shades of the 2010 MacBook Air?


Though a moot point now for consumers, in 2004 Sony came out with an ultrathin wedge-shaped laptop that was a progenitor of the MacBook Air, particularly Apple's 2010 incarnation.

At the Apple event this week in San Francisco, Steve Jobs said the new MacBook Air "is the future of notebooks." That's debatable of course but it's clear that PC makers like Sony and Hewlett-Packard already saw that kind of future a long time ago. The problem was that either their timing was off or they didn't execute the designs as well as Apple--or simply that the laptop was too expensive.

Back in 1998, HP released the ultrathin, 3-pound Sojourn
made from magnesium. (And more recently the wafer-thin Dell Adamo XPS eclipsed the older Apple Air by using a heavily wedged design.)

But Sony's offering may be one of the best examples of a laptop that pretty much matches Apple's design--except Sony did it six years ago. The nickel carbon body Vaio X505--no longer available--had some very impressive specs for its time. (See 2004 review.)


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Similar to the MacBook Air, the pronounced wedge design was 0.38 inches at the thinnest point and 0.83 at the thickest. The nickel carbon body also squeezed in an Ethernet port, a PCMCIA slot, and a 1394 connector


Like Apple's new Air, the Vaio X505 used an ultralow voltage Intel chip: a Pentium M "ULV" 1.1GHz processor. And similar to the Air, it was 0.38 inches at it thinnest point and 0.83 inches at its thickest (and keep in mind this was remarkably thin for a design that was probably conceived in 2002). The Sony X505 was smaller than the 11.6-inch Air, packing a 10.4-inch display, but it was only 1.85 pounds.


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2010 MacBook Air

And the price? When the Sony Vaio X505 came out, it was about $3,000. And that's probably where Apple's new Air breaks the most ground. The ultrasvelte, 2.3-pound Air--which I would argue is the most impressive Apple MacBook design--can be had for $999. Still a bit pricey but far below the boutique, Rodeo-Drive ultrathins of the past. (Note that Apple's original high-end MBA was about $3,000 but mainstream Air models eventually settled in at about half that price.)

So, what does Sony have today? It has the X series, but that's a single-core Intel Atom processor-based design and won't deliver the performance of the Air, which uses a Core 2 Duo processor and Nvidia graphics.

I never seen this laptop until now. Well I might have and don't remember. Very interesting article though.
 
What's your point?

Are you extremely surprised that a laptop was thin BEFORE the Macbook Air? Look up Samsung X360 and see that right around the time the original MBA was announced, there were more extremely thin notebooks.

Or are you just blindly copying a 'story' from the 'respectable' news site CNET?
 
What's your point?

Are you extremely surprised that a laptop was thin BEFORE the Macbook Air? Look up Samsung X360 and see that right around the time the original MBA was announced, there were more extremely thin notebooks.

Or are you just blindly copying a 'story' from the 'respectable' news site CNET?

Most of the stuff on the net is copy and paste so you can chill with that BS. I was just saying I have never seen this laptop and maybe someone on here used to own one. You can calm down now board warrior.
 
What's your point?

Are you extremely surprised that a laptop was thin BEFORE the Macbook Air? Look up Samsung X360 and see that right around the time the original MBA was announced, there were more extremely thin notebooks.

Or are you just blindly copying a 'story' from the 'respectable' news site CNET?

I don't think that was his point - calm yourself fanboi...
 
I never seen this laptop until now. Well I might have and don't remember. Very interesting article though.

Yep, I remember this machine. Very cute and amazingly compact.

However, it was rendered almost unusable by the fact that it used a pointing stick (no trackpad) and the system was very sluggish. Sony have built some amazingly compact machines over the years but they have all been compromised in terms of usability.
 
Yep, I remember this machine. Very cute and amazingly compact.

However, it was rendered almost unusable by the fact that it used a pointing stick (no trackpad) and the system was very sluggish. Sony have built some amazingly compact machines over the years but they have all been compromised in terms of usability.

Yeah, I agree - usability is key.

The touch pad is what makes or breaks the deal for me - I've been spoiled by Apples superb engineering when it comes to usability.
 
Yep, I remember this machine. Very cute and amazingly compact.

However, it was rendered almost unusable by the fact that it used a pointing stick (no trackpad) and the system was very sluggish. Sony have built some amazingly compact machines over the years but they have all been compromised in terms of usability.

Now that's crazy. But using this machine back then would at least give you a idea of how the new MBA would feel when you hold it. Weight's not far off.

Yeah, I agree - usability is key.

The touch pad is what makes or breaks the deal for me - I've been spoiled by Apples superb engineering when it comes to usability.

I'm with you man. I got my first MBP on Oct 2nd this year and I love this thing. It's so sleek and easy to use. The track pad is the best I've used on a laptop.
 
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