Anand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link
Ultimately the benchmarking problem is being fixed, just not on the time scale that we want it to. I figured we'd be better off by now, and in many ways we are (WebXPRT, Browsermark are both steps in the right direction, we have more native tools under Android now) but part of the problem is there was a long period of uncertainty around what OSes would prevail. Now that question is finally being answered and we're seeing some real investment in benchmarks. Trust me, I tried to do a lot behind the scenes over the past 4 years (some of which Brian and I did recently) but this stuff takes time. I remember going through this in the early days of the PC industry too though, I know how it all ends - it'll just take a little time to get there.
The benchmarks were essentially done single threaded. But when you run a multi-threaded test where the cores matter and where Android shines, the A7 gets crushed. I don't understand why Anand did not do more multi0-threaded tests. Also some of his tests are questionable and has been called out on it.
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The benchmarks were essentially done single threaded. But when you run a multi-threaded test where the cores matter and where Android shines, the A7 gets crushed. I don't understand why Anand did not do more multi0-threaded tests. Also some of his tests are questionable and has been called out on it.
Lets compare it to real actual everyday performance tests from gurus like anandtech.
Funny how these exact same tests when the GS4 came out were more than fine.
Do you understand these where browser benchmarks?? That these were not hardware benchmarks? The one I posted was and the A7 lost.
That's why Anand got called out. he is using JS browser engine benchmarks and that is an "Apples to Oranges" test.
His quote in the 5S comments in response to being called up sums it up. That he's working on.
You can't effectively compare different platforms running different JS engines and different browsers and call it a day. That's wrong.
Do you understand these where browser benchmarks?? That these were not hardware benchmarks? The one I posted was and the A7 lost. And that's from Anand himself.
That's why Anand got called out. he is using JS browser engine benchmarks and that is an "Apples to Oranges" test.
His quote in the 5S comments in response to being called up sums it up. That he's working on it.
You can't effectively compare different platforms running different JS engines and different browsers and call it a day. That's wrong.
Do you understand these where browser benchmarks?? That these were not hardware benchmarks? The one I posted was and the A7 lost. And that's from Anand himself.
That's why Anand got called out. he is using JS browser engine benchmarks and that is an "Apples to Oranges" test.
His quote in the 5S review comments in response to being called out sums it. That he's working on it.
You can't effectively compare different platforms running different JS engines and different browsers and call it a day. That's wrong.
yeah and if anand didn't take the benchmark then who did? Not like anyone has the 5S yet.....something tells me that benchmark is BS. Multithreaded or not the 5S would beat the 5 and 5c.
Please. Nobody but fandroids cares about pure hardware specs. It's just laughable when fandroids cannot take being beaten at your own game.
That benchmark I posted was from Anand. Look at the link.
He himself admits that the test is not perfect and he's working on it. But people need to realize what the test actually measure.
Please. Nobody but fandroids cares about pure hardware specs. It's just laughable when fandroids cannot take being beaten at your own game.
Fandroids need to get over wasting their time posting in every apple related thread about how much they hate apple and how the 500th android handset released this week is better.
I guess you have plenty of time, while you wait for your manufacturer/handset to be finally compatible with x version of android. Not the latest version of course, that will probably come in 6 to 12 months.
I ran a sunspider test on my iphone 5 with ios 7 and this 1 year old phone is faster than the latest (week old) Android with 100 cores.
Your use of a physics test, as if we are going to run autocad or mathlab on our phones, is laughable by any stretch.
Please. Nobody but fandroids cares about pure hardware specs. It's just laughable when fandroids cannot take being beaten at your own game.
Fandroids need to get over wasting their time posting in every apple related thread about how much they hate apple and how the 500th android handset released this week is better.
I guess you have plenty of time, while you wait for your manufacturer/handset to be finally compatible with x version of android. Not the latest version of course, that will probably come in 6 to 12 months.
I ran a sunspider test on my iphone 5 with ios 7 and this 1 year old phone is faster than the latest (week old) Android with 100 cores.
Your use of a physics test, as if we are going to run autocad or mathlab on our phones, is laughable by any stretch.
This is a 3D/GPU benchmark. It is not a CPU benchmark.The benchmarks were essentially done single threaded. But when you run a multi-threaded test where the cores matter and where Android shines, the A7 gets crushed. I don't understand why Anand did not do more multi0-threaded tests. Also some of his tests are questionable and has been called out on it.
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Reply from Anand about his testing being flawed:
Fandroid? Hardly. I have a MBP 17, MBA, 2 iPads, still have my iPhone 3G, 3Gs, and 4. I work in an all mac shop. So hardly a "Fandroid".
Can someone dumb this down for us non techies? I use my phone to (in order of highest occurance rate)
web browser
text
phone
So doing the things above, which phone does it the fastest? I and most others dont use to much software that takes alot of power. Please answer in simple terms.