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qwertyfishbowl

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I've been looking into two different tools -
DriveDX, which I'm still trying to get a response from the support for over 2 weeks now. Is the product still legit?
The other is Micromat, which I'm still looking into.
Suggestions for an alternative greatly appreciated. Need to know when a 10yr old external hd won't be able to work anymore....still working now but you never know and I'm getting paranoid...

Thanks.
 
I have the FULL suite of Micromat products.

Techtool Pro - Mac diagnostics/testing (this will let you do varies scans of your drives to check health, plus a ton of other stuff)
Lifespan - SSD life monitoring/status (informs you of life remaining in your drives)
Drivescope - Disk smart status (does what you would expect)
Trashman - enables emptying trash for individual drives (as stated)
Atomic - Ram testing tool (only really applicable for my cMP now)

You should always have a backup as well…. ;)
 
Thanks for info.
Do you mean a backup for the backup....? 🙃
Ah didn’t realise this WAS your backup…. 😁
If it’s not making any funny noises or anything, and it’s a decent make, just keep an eye on it, and make sure it’s ejected before unplugging.
 
OP wrote:
"USB. its not attached all the time, just when I need to store something on it."

Another "Fishrrman dumb reply" ...

Does the drive consistently show up on the desktop when you connect it?
Does the drive read existing files without problems?
Does the drive "accept" new files written to it without problems?
No error messages?
If you open disk utility and run "first aid" on the drive, do you get "a good report"?

If all of the above applies, then I'd reckon the drive is "good enough" and wouldn't worry about it.
 
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Odds are you won't get much advance notice when the drive or enclosure conks. It just conks. Sometimes they spend some time dying (with obvious signs) but other times, they are just dead one day. 10 years is a LONG time for HDDs. If me, I'd back that up to what will be its replacement ASAP. Then if it lasts 2+ more years, just keep the backup up to date too. When the day comes that it has conked, slug in the backup and be mostly whole again.

On the hope side, when the macOS-driven "unexpected ejections" problem popped up 5 macOS generations ago, I did some testing with drives in enclosures as old as 20+ years... finding some of them to still work just fine. So you MAY have many years ahead. Nevertheless, a fresh backup is always good to have in this kind of situation. Perhaps your intuition knows something that the system tools can't detect yet?
 
DriveDX, which I'm still trying to get a response from the support for over 2 weeks now. Is the product still legit?
It’s still available for download via their official website and functions properly on the latest version of macOS (v15.3.1). So, I would say: yes.

In fact, Binary Fruit allows a trial period — ensure you also install the SAT SMART driver:
“Trial Version” means a version of the Software to be used only to review, demonstrate and evaluate the Software for a limited time period. Our Software products is shareware. It means that You can download the Trial Version for evaluation, test compatibility with Your hardware and, if You like the product, order the license. I.e. You can try before You buy. The Trial Version of Software may be installed and used by You for the sole purpose of trying and evaluating this Software. The Trial Version of Software may be installed and used by You on any number of systems. Your distribution of a Trial Version of the Software to a third party will not entitle You to any compensation from Us. You are not permitted to use the Trial Version on any system where the Trial Version was previously Used and expired.
Many older enclosures (e.g., USB 2/3) don’t support passing SMART data.

By the way, this equally affects if TechTool Pro can report and monitor external drive health.

Speaking oF TTP… I owned v13 through v17, primarily for monitoring drive health. It’s a nice and nifty software suite. However, I didn’t feel I was getting the utmost value because I didn’t utilize most of the features. So, I moved to DriveDx, but not solely. When I initially transitioned to DriveDx, like you, my focus was monitoring the health of a HDD I was using for backups. Because it was a HDD, I liked the option to defrag, at least occasionally, which TTP was certainly equipped to do. To make up for that feature loss, I rediscovered/dug up a tool from the past:


With SSDs, of course, defragging is not only useless but damaging. Furthermore, APFS doesn’t support manual defragmentation — put very simply, it’s because APFS is designed for SSDs. Therefore, I eventually abandoned iDefrag, again.

Suggestions for an alternative greatly appreciated. Need to know when a 10yr old external hd won't be able to work anymore....still working now but you never know and I'm getting paranoid...
Duration is only a single factor of many. For example, there’s also temperature (including but not limited to range and peak temperatures the drive has been subjected to), drive defects, general wear, mishandling damage (anything from physical handling to disconnection while the drive is in operation), unfortunate damage (e.g., power outage), and more.

Anyway...

In addition to the earlier mentions, you can routinely (or occasionally) run Disk First Aid. Another good practice is performing a realistic test. If you’re using a cloning software for backup, open various files. If you’re using Time Machine, restore (and open) various files. These actions should provide at least some assurance the file system hasn’t sustained any corruption and can be successfully accessed.
 
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Thanks for info.
Do you mean a backup for the backup....? 🙃
Yes, in a way, you need three copies of the data in two geographic locations. Well, at least for data you'd like to keep indefinitely.

If the data is "business critical" then bump those numbers up by one, four copies, and three locations.

My prediction: Because few people do this, in 100 years there will be very few 100-year-old photographs.
 
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