Where is beta 6? iOS is already on Beta 7. I can't even leave my MacBook plugged in without it freezing and having to force a restart.
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Same with me. Waiting on beta 6. OP, kindly change the title of the thread to macOS Catalina 10.15 Beta 6.
This is beyond absurd now. macOS is by far in the worst shape of all the betas (and thats saying a lot considering how bad they all are) and it is now 2 builds behind everything else.
Apple realised that if they don't release a new beta people won't have problems with stuck updates, updates that don't update, 12 hours long updates, corrupted drives during update, etc. That is very smart 
I can't wait to get off Safari and back onto Firefox. I really don't like Safari.
And Photos keeps crashing.
And Mail notification come in minutes after the mail has been downloaded.
And iMessage hangs (and has to be force closed) if I try to close it too quickly after reading a message.
Luckily, one bug I've not hit is the stupidly long upgrades. I wonder if it's taking Apple so long to fix the bugs because many of them are still updating to the last beta
And Photos keeps crashing.
And Mail notification come in minutes after the mail has been downloaded.
And iMessage hangs (and has to be force closed) if I try to close it too quickly after reading a message.
Luckily, one bug I've not hit is the stupidly long upgrades. I wonder if it's taking Apple so long to fix the bugs because many of them are still updating to the last beta
Sure I look forward to the next beta, but I am actually quite happy with Beta 5. It is rock-stable for me, and I have no issues, perhaps bar a slower startup than with Mojave.
But, I am looking forward to the final version, as I do have thee "issues" I hope will be sorted out; 1) I have folder in my LaunchPad that showed up after beta 4, which I cannot get rid of, 2) I mistakenly deleted a folder containing iCloud files, which I can neither clear my Trash off, nor restore, and 3) (to do with the folder in my trash I think) when I run FirstAid it says it cannot clean my SSD, and this is even when I boot in Recovery Mode.
But, I am looking forward to the final version, as I do have thee "issues" I hope will be sorted out; 1) I have folder in my LaunchPad that showed up after beta 4, which I cannot get rid of, 2) I mistakenly deleted a folder containing iCloud files, which I can neither clear my Trash off, nor restore, and 3) (to do with the folder in my trash I think) when I run FirstAid it says it cannot clean my SSD, and this is even when I boot in Recovery Mode.
I am also waiting desperately for beta 6 too.
I've been continuously running photos app for a week now, and it is still "curating best photos" for me. (i could see some progress as the photos displaying in the "years view" sometimes change, but the progress bar stuck at approximately 95%)
I've been continuously running photos app for a week now, and it is still "curating best photos" for me. (i could see some progress as the photos displaying in the "years view" sometimes change, but the progress bar stuck at approximately 95%)
My hope is that Apple realized their mistake and is delaying the release of Catalina and the reason we haven't seen a new beta since July 31 is because they are finally working out the bugs before they release another beta.
I can't wait to get off Safari and back onto Firefox. I really don't like Safari.
And Photos keeps crashing.
And Mail notification come in minutes after the mail has been downloaded.
And iMessage hangs (and has to be force closed) if I try to close it too quickly after reading a message.
Luckily, one bug I've not hit is the stupidly long upgrades. I wonder if it's taking Apple so long to fix the bugs because many of them are still updating to the last beta
Have been using iOS betas on my daily drivers (iPhone and iPad Pro) but did not muster the courage to install Catalina. Waiting for the dust to settle. Maybe beta 8 ???
Do not underestimate the misery a beta can cause you. I have learnt - and hopefully, after being burnt and then trying again several times, this is the last time.
Yesterday, having put up with Catalina nonsense for the past few weeks, I fiddled about with my Onenote notebooks. I rearranged them and they all seemed to sync up. Then my new iMac would not restart. Eventually my only option was to wipe it and start again (Backblaze, Time Machine and CCC did not work and I had been hoping for the best). I got things going with Mojave and started from scratch. Everything went ok apart from Onenot - which I rely on for my notes.
I now get 'Content Not Yet Available' for about 20% of my notes. I'd thought that Onenote, being 'in the cloud' would have some kind of backup -but my best guess is that, having rearranged my notes, and then my iMac going caput very shortly after, has meant that all these notes have been lost into the ether. They are not available on the cloud or on any of my other devices. So clearly, the advice is - do not ever use a beta if you ever care whatsoever about your data.
I had put up with the following with Catalalina - Mail : I had to login via Safari as it could not search, Books - nothing would open, Logic Pro X - the UI was so delayed and glitchy that it was unuseable - plus any plugins would make it not open, Logic Remote would not open, Akai Mpc would not launch, etc. A lot of these issues involved Apple's own software.
I put up with it because of the promise of Sidecar on my iPad pro - since I'm unwilling to buy a butterfly keyboard laptop, and my 2015 mbpro is dead. It all seemed to be worth it until the iMac died today, and even less worth it since about 1000 notes I'd imagined to be safe in the cloud, have now disappeared. I'm not blaming Apple for the latter, since it seems to be a miscommunication somewhere along the line between Apple and Microsoft, however, the general gist from my point of view is - don't mess with a beta - and depend on the cloud for backup at the same time.
I had stupidly believed that if something was in a cloud service, it was safe - but today's experience shows me that if you are on a beta, and are using a cloud service, it is vulnerable.
I feel like an idiot - and will not use an Apple beta again. I am also reconsidering my use of OneNote - as it seems like it can signal that its Notebooks are 'synced' when they are anything but.
A boring story for sure - but perhaps a warning for anyone who, like me, was thinking - 'What's the worse that can happen' when enticed by the new features of the latest beta.
The worst is - hundreds of hours of work down the drain - if you are stupid enough like me, to set aside best practices of Backblaze and Time Machine and CCC - in the interests of using the latest features of the latest Beta.
Postscript - I'd been waiting for Beta 6 on tenterhooks - because my new iMac was nearly unuseable - and thought I'd reorganize my OneNote setup as one of the few things that wouldn't be affected at a MacOS level. I guess I was unlucky in that Beta 5 crippled my computer at just the moment that OneNote was syncing? That's my best guess. Anyway - I think I'll give Catalina a miss and try the next one in 18 months at this rate
PostPostscript - The computer I'm using is a brand new 2019 27inch iMac, i9 - so not an issue of compatability I'd think.
Yesterday, having put up with Catalina nonsense for the past few weeks, I fiddled about with my Onenote notebooks. I rearranged them and they all seemed to sync up. Then my new iMac would not restart. Eventually my only option was to wipe it and start again (Backblaze, Time Machine and CCC did not work and I had been hoping for the best). I got things going with Mojave and started from scratch. Everything went ok apart from Onenot - which I rely on for my notes.
I now get 'Content Not Yet Available' for about 20% of my notes. I'd thought that Onenote, being 'in the cloud' would have some kind of backup -but my best guess is that, having rearranged my notes, and then my iMac going caput very shortly after, has meant that all these notes have been lost into the ether. They are not available on the cloud or on any of my other devices. So clearly, the advice is - do not ever use a beta if you ever care whatsoever about your data.
I had put up with the following with Catalalina - Mail : I had to login via Safari as it could not search, Books - nothing would open, Logic Pro X - the UI was so delayed and glitchy that it was unuseable - plus any plugins would make it not open, Logic Remote would not open, Akai Mpc would not launch, etc. A lot of these issues involved Apple's own software.
I put up with it because of the promise of Sidecar on my iPad pro - since I'm unwilling to buy a butterfly keyboard laptop, and my 2015 mbpro is dead. It all seemed to be worth it until the iMac died today, and even less worth it since about 1000 notes I'd imagined to be safe in the cloud, have now disappeared. I'm not blaming Apple for the latter, since it seems to be a miscommunication somewhere along the line between Apple and Microsoft, however, the general gist from my point of view is - don't mess with a beta - and depend on the cloud for backup at the same time.
I had stupidly believed that if something was in a cloud service, it was safe - but today's experience shows me that if you are on a beta, and are using a cloud service, it is vulnerable.
I feel like an idiot - and will not use an Apple beta again. I am also reconsidering my use of OneNote - as it seems like it can signal that its Notebooks are 'synced' when they are anything but.
A boring story for sure - but perhaps a warning for anyone who, like me, was thinking - 'What's the worse that can happen' when enticed by the new features of the latest beta.
The worst is - hundreds of hours of work down the drain - if you are stupid enough like me, to set aside best practices of Backblaze and Time Machine and CCC - in the interests of using the latest features of the latest Beta.
Postscript - I'd been waiting for Beta 6 on tenterhooks - because my new iMac was nearly unuseable - and thought I'd reorganize my OneNote setup as one of the few things that wouldn't be affected at a MacOS level. I guess I was unlucky in that Beta 5 crippled my computer at just the moment that OneNote was syncing? That's my best guess. Anyway - I think I'll give Catalina a miss and try the next one in 18 months at this rate
PostPostscript - The computer I'm using is a brand new 2019 27inch iMac, i9 - so not an issue of compatability I'd think.
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Not being able to use Firefox is the most annoying bug for me, but even that is manageable. I still like to be on the bleeding edge, so tend to upgrade as soon as it's available. I know that if I'd waited a couple of days I could have read about Firefox not working and held off, but instead I installed that beta immediately and have the dubious honour of being the first person to report it to Mozilla!
Not for me. I always like to continue looking after I've found something.
For Mojave --- does anyone know how many Developer Previews (Beta) was out before the Final Release for the first version was out? It could be approximately the same for Catalina.
I for one cannot wait for the Final release for Catalina (10.15.0) will be out.
I for one cannot wait for the Final release for Catalina (10.15.0) will be out.
Catalina is so buggy, chances are I will stay on Mojave long after the public release of Catalina.
That there hasn’t been a new beta plus the current state of Catalina is pretty worrying. There’s got to be a bad crunch going on if this is going to release on schedule.
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Amphetamine fixes that.
I have Catalina on my 2012 pre-retina MBP. And it's not the bugs that have made this beta bothersome, but the speed. Now, I know, my machine is the lowest supported, and it is a beta, but so far it's been a misery to use on Catalina. I'm hoping the final release of 10.15.0 is a lot smoother, and the last update Catalina will ever get (most likely 10.15.6 judging by previous history) will make this machine a lot easier to use on the newest OS.
I had a 2008 Aluminium Unibody MacBook that was running High Sierra (through dosdude1's patcher) and it ran it better than this runs Catalina, so that's giving me hope that the public version of Catalina will be better.
And please don't reply to this telling me how it's a beta, I know it is, and I know it's going to be slower and buggier than the public version, and I know I shouldn't be using a beta on my daily driver, but I'll deal with worst performance for the new features. This was just my two-cents on how it's been running for me, and I'm desperately waiting for beta 6 and hoping that's going to make my experience on here better.
I had a 2008 Aluminium Unibody MacBook that was running High Sierra (through dosdude1's patcher) and it ran it better than this runs Catalina, so that's giving me hope that the public version of Catalina will be better.
And please don't reply to this telling me how it's a beta, I know it is, and I know it's going to be slower and buggier than the public version, and I know I shouldn't be using a beta on my daily driver, but I'll deal with worst performance for the new features. This was just my two-cents on how it's been running for me, and I'm desperately waiting for beta 6 and hoping that's going to make my experience on here better.
If you are still running that 500GB HDD in your sig, then THAT'S your main block to decent performance on any recent macOS system.