Bootcamp for M-Series Chips NOW!

[oharag]

I'm here to demand and champion Bootcamp for Mac Silicon. I figured it wasn't initially developed due to Windows for ARM wasn't really supported initially - now with Windows for ARM support increasing (with windows tablets using Snap Dragon and Arm) - and also being bundled with Parallels - why won't Apple update Bootcamp for Mac Silicon. I think Apple is king of virtualization and has the ability to trasnlate Windows video calls to Mac Silicon. Why Apple why haven't you released Bootcamp for Silicon yet?

Parallels - yearly subscription too expensive.

I see having Bootcamp running on Mac Silicon as a huge benefit for Apple and even Microsoft + Windows App Devs.

Just my thoughts

 

[Sheepish-Lord]

Always have to ask yourself, what would Apple get out of it? Additionally, do they even have support from MS anymore for bootcamp? People wanted bootcamp for x86 support but now you would just get Windows ARM which is supported less than macOS.

If you’re using Windows you’re probably not on ARM and if you’re on ARM you’re probably using a Mac.

 

[okkibs]

You can already attempt to boot alternative operating systems. There is even one that does boot, it's a flavor of linux. But they had to customize that OS and put in work to make it support Apple Silicon. Even so, it remains unfinished to this day as they can't 100% copy what macOS does. Without the help of Apple some internals remain hidden away.

So you'd need both Microsoft and Apple working together to make this a reality. Yet Microsoft doesn't make money from supporting the Mac and Apple doesn't either. If anything, Microsoft would rather sell you their own Surface hardware and Apple would prefer it if you remained entirely in their own ecosystem.

The only reason bootcamp ever worked was the fact that Intel Macs used the same chips as Windows computers hence Windows was able to boot on Mac. If they had used different chips like the PowerPC Macs that came before Intel then Windows would never have been able to boot up either.

As long as Apple keeps using their own silicon there won't be another bootcamp. Maybe one day Windows will again run on the same chips that Macs use but that time could be decades away.

 

[BigBlur]

Apple has said it's up to Microsoft to make it happen.

Craig Federighi: Native Windows on M1 Macs is 'Really up to Microsoft'

Following the release of the M1 Macs Apple executives have been doing interviews with a range of publications, and today, Ars Technica published...

www.macrumors.com

Also, remember that Windows 11 requires a TPM 2.0 chip (and other certain requirements), which Macs don't have. There's nothing Apple can do about that; Microsoft would need to change those requirements.

Is there really much of a demand for dual-booting these days? Computers are so fast now that virtualization is pretty much seamless. Parallels works great where I can run Mac and Windows apps side-by-side. Personally, I couldn't imagine having to go back to dual booting and be stuck in one OS at a time.

I don't like Parallel's subscription model either, but they do have good sales if you keep an eye out for them. They also have a one-time purchase option that gets discounted once in a while as well. There are, of course, other free alternatives out there such as VMware Fusion and UTM.

 

[avro707]

Is there really much of a demand for dual-booting these days? Computers are so fast now that virtualization is pretty much seamless

It is still necessary- and it cuts out those subscription based virtualisation apps.

I do use dual boot because some of the things I use Windows 11 (workstation version) just will not run properly unless native.