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The Macbook pro 13 inch uses a butterfly keyboard. How would this be different from the keyboard in my 2012 MacBook pro? Are these comfortable to type on?
 
There is a lot on the internet and here on MacRumors about butterfly keyboard and how it differs from the one used previously (scissor). But in general butterfly keyboard feels totally different, has less key travel and, for many, is less comfortable to type on - all of these in comparison to scissor keyboard. Plus it has too many times been reported as a failing one, but also with Apple repair program to be available for these keyboards...
 
The difference is the mechinism that is used, instead of a scissor's arrangement, it uses delicate little plastic hinges that easily break.
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The difference is the mechinism that is used, instead of a scissor's arrangement, it uses delicate little plastic hinges that easily break.
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I wonder if the 3rd gen butterfly keyboard design is much better because this is what the Macbook pro 13 inch uses. I have read lots of complaints but I don't know if these complaints are for the 3rd gen or the previous generations.

Reason I ask is that I am considering upgrading and cannot afford the 16 inch. I want the 13 inch.
 
I wonder if the 3rd gen butterfly keyboard design is much better because this is what the Macbook pro 13 inch uses
Its better then the first gen, to be sure but it's still a flawed design. It will fail sooner or later.

and cannot afford the 16 inch. I want the 13 inch.
Wait until apple releases the updated 13 (or 14") model. Rumors have the release coming soon.
 
Reason I ask is that I am considering upgrading and cannot afford the 16 inch. I want the 13 inch.

I would wait for the release of the new 13" or maybe it's a 14" MacBook Pro. Either that or purchase the new 2020 MacBook Air which has the scissor type keyboard.
 
Well I don’t have the money for it now anyways. My moms MacBook Air was the last with standard USB ports so I think it’s using the butterfly keyboard.
 
According to Jon Prosser, yes. I think he's proven himself as a reliable leaker so far. It's unclear whether or not it will be a 13" or a 14" but I'd still wait regardless. If it doesn't come out in May then they may just wait until WWDC, still not that far off.

Apple on its website says its a small number of users that have this problem with the keyboard. I wonder if thats true.
 
Apple on its website says its a small number of users that have this problem with the keyboard. I wonder if thats true.
Were the numbers really negligible, would a stubborn company like Apple introduce a 4-year free repair program and still end up backpedaling on the whole design?

Wait :)
 
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Apple on its website says its a small number of users that have this problem with the keyboard. I wonder if thats true.
It may be a relatively small number but it’s still not pleasant to type on at all! Trust me it kills your fingers after a while. It’s also 700$ to fix it after the 4 year warranty program ends! It sounds like you hold onto your MacBooks so I’d definitely wait if you can.
I can tell you I’ve had no issues with my butterfly keyboard after 2.5 years (I’m careful about crumbs and dust though)
 
It may be a relatively small number but it’s still not pleasant to type on at all! Trust me it kills your fingers after a while. It’s also 700$ to fix it after the 4 year warranty program ends! It sounds like you hold onto your MacBooks so I’d definitely wait if you can.
I can tell you I’ve had no issues with my butterfly keyboard after 2.5 years (I’m careful about crumbs and dust though)

Yes to type on my keyboard is no problem. Well I don't have the money now anyways, so let me cross my fingers that apple updates its Macbook Pro 13 inch line in May.
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It may be a relatively small number but it’s still not pleasant to type on at all! Trust me it kills your fingers after a while. It’s also 700$ to fix it after the 4 year warranty program ends! It sounds like you hold onto your MacBooks so I’d definitely wait if you can.
I can tell you I’ve had no issues with my butterfly keyboard after 2.5 years (I’m careful about crumbs and dust though)

I am also careful about crumbs as I don't eat near my computer. Dust however is another matter, but it has no effect on my Macbook pro.
 
Yes to type on my keyboard is no problem. Well I don't have the money now anyways, so let me cross my fingers that apple updates its Macbook Pro 13 inch line in May.
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I am also careful about crumbs as I don't eat near my computer. Dust however is another matter, but it has no effect on my Macbook pro.

doesn’t matter about crumbs. The butterfly keyboard just gets messed up. My colleague and I both have the same machine and both of us had to have the keyboard repaired.
 
3 repairs and apple will upgrade you, or give you a upgrade if you pay the difference from retail btw. Ive been hammering the keyboard and honestly it isn't that bad, when it fails which it likely will im certain apple will take care of me.
 
is the keyboard fine now?

Actually for me, not really. Oh plus the fact that my computer fully died. It’s a late 2016 so only 3 years and 5 months and now it won’t turn on :-(.

Had to buy a new computer. Got the 16” because I didn’t want to deal with the keyboard issues on the 13” anymore.
 
Actually for me, not really. Oh plus the fact that my computer fully died. It’s a late 2016 so only 3 years and 5 months and now it won’t turn on :-(.

Had to buy a new computer. Got the 16” because I didn’t want to deal with the keyboard issues on the 13” anymore.

I sure do hope that apple releases a refresh in May for the 13 inch.
 
OP:

DO NOT... repeat... DO NOT buy a 13" MacBook Pro now.

The butterfly keyboard is a problem and you will regret owning it if it fails (highly likely).

WAIT for the upcoming 14" MacBook Pro.
It won't be much longer.
 
OP:

DO NOT... repeat... DO NOT buy a 13" MacBook Pro now.

The butterfly keyboard is a problem and you will regret owning it if it fails (highly likely).

WAIT for the upcoming 14" MacBook Pro.
It won't be much longer.

They may also refresh the 13 inch as well.
 
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