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blueyechi

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I am a Verizon customer but I need to have the iPhone. I am not willing to switch over to Cingular but I am willing to put down $499 for a Widescreen iPod, a Web Browser, Google Maps, etc. Would it be possible to just walk into an apple store around June, pick up an iPhone, and use it for everything other than a phone?
 
I would assume so, but Im not positive... you will most likely be able to use many features over the wifi and bluetooth...
 
What makes you think any of us would know?

The phone isn't even out yet. Besides doubt you can buy it directly from Apple. Try third party ways like eBay.
 
I am a Verizon customer but I need to have the iPhone. I am not willing to switch over to Cingular but I am willing to put down $499 for a Widescreen iPod, a Web Browser, Google Maps, etc. Would it be possible to just walk into an apple store around June, pick up an iPhone, and use it for everything other than a phone?

I doubt it. I'm willing to bet that the exclusivity contract between the iPhone and Cingular will only last for 1 year. Cingular will be the only provider that will be able to provide internet access etc. And, $600 later, after the masses have signed on to Cingular for 2 years, Apple will announce that its 'ageing' iPhone is now available without network contract, at a greatly reduced price. But, what most people won't see, is that they're just clearing stocks to make room for the next iPhone installment.

Of course you could use it for bluetooth and iPod, but why would you?
 
im sure they will be available on ebay off contract, but good luck finding one unlocked. since its a new phone OS, its going to be awhile until people start unlocking these.
 
I am a Verizon customer but I need to have the iPhone. I am not willing to switch over to Cingular but I am willing to put down $499 for a Widescreen iPod, a Web Browser, Google Maps, etc. Would it be possible to just walk into an apple store around June, pick up an iPhone, and use it for everything other than a phone?

The technology might go into an iPod though.. so I would wait.. :)
 
The technology might go into an iPod though.. so I would wait.. :)
If that were true then they would of announced a widescreen iPod today. They want people to buy the iPhone before they announce a stand alone widescreen ipod, and if they are not shipping till June expect another 6 months before a new iPod. So it wont be until xmas 07.
 
im sure they will be available on ebay off contract, but good luck finding one unlocked. since its a new phone OS, its going to be awhile until people start unlocking these.

A new OS? It is a stripped down OS X. And OS X is UNIX with a GUI. Hardly new. A new wrapper? Yeah...but not a new operating system.
 
A new OS? It is a stripped down OS X. And OS X is UNIX with a GUI. Hardly new. A new wrapper? Yeah...but not a new operating system.

there weren't that many specs dropped on what os the phone is actually running. sure they said "os x" but who knows what's behind that until the public gets a hold of a unit.
 
I still think by June we'll have a stand-alone iPod (with no phone) that has most of those features, plus a larger HD.
Why would they do it in June, that would eat into iPhone sales. It wont happen till fall.
 
What do they care? A sale's a sale. You could argue the reverse. Or you could argue the Zune will cut into iPod sales if iPods don't get bigger displays.
Apple has done it before, holding back a product so that they can sell a new device.
 
True but they don't want to take the spotlight away from the iPhone with a new iPod. They could of announced it today if they wanted too.
 
I am a Verizon customer but I need to have the iPhone. I am not willing to switch over to Cingular but I am willing to put down $499 for a Widescreen iPod, a Web Browser, Google Maps, etc. Would it be possible to just walk into an apple store around June, pick up an iPhone, and use it for everything other than a phone?

Basically, yes. (Probably). Except, you'll pay $699 for the 4GB, $799 for the 8GB. Cingular's standard signing discount is $200, so I'm assuming that's the discount their offering on these (remember Steve and the Cingular guy noted that the prices he listed included the 2 year contract). Also, of course, your web browsing, Google maps, etc, would only work on Wifi if the phone's not activated.

Now, it's possible they'd got the route of some phones and require a valid SIM to even do anything but make an emergency call, but I'd hope not. Not for a smart phone like that.

jW
 
Basically, yes. (Probably). Except, you'll pay $699 for the 4GB, $799 for the 8GB. Cingular's standard signing discount is $200, so I'm assuming that's the discount their offering on these (remember Steve and the Cingular guy noted that the prices he listed included the 2 year contract). Also, of course, your web browsing, Google maps, etc, would only work on Wifi if the phone's not activated.

Now, it's possible they'd got the route of some phones and require a valid SIM to even do anything but make an emergency call, but I'd hope not. Not for a smart phone like that.

jW

But it is still up in the air as to whether you will only be able to buy this phone through cingular... If that is the case then you may have to sign up for a contract to buy it. Either way, if you don't get the two year contract, I'm guessing the price jumps about $200.
 
I still think by June we'll have a stand-alone iPod (with no phone) that has most of those features, plus a larger HD.

i don't think the next ipod will have "most" of those features. maybe all of the ipod features, but i wouldn't count on any of the internet stuff being included.
 
im sure they will be available on ebay off contract, but good luck finding one unlocked. since its a new phone OS, its going to be awhile until people start unlocking these.

There's no guarantee the phone is locked at all. Cingular has exclusive distribution and service agreements with Apple, but that doesn't mean that the device itself is SIM locked. My first instinct would be that it isn't, because why should Apple bend to cell phone games? It won't be able to make these fast enough, period, and when they branch out to the rest of the world, it probably won't be locked.

Instead, they'll probably just make you sign up with Cingular as part of the checkout process (like when you buy phones at Best Buy or Amazon.com), and then you can cancel your individual contract for $200, thereby getting your own iPhone for T-Mobile or Orange or whatever GSM operator you choose. Cingular gets paid, Apple gets paid, you don't suffer any worse than usual with a cell phone. It's win-win-win.
 
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