Here in my country brownouts are pretty normal, earlier power has been going on and off while my phone was charging, everytime the power goes out I would unplug the charger just in case it would help from getting any damage. Please help, thanks.
Get a surge protector and you'll be fine.Here in my country brownouts are pretty normal, earlier power has been going on and off while my phone was charging, everytime the power goes out I would unplug the charger just in case it would help from getting any damage. Please help, thanks.![]()
Get a surge protector and you'll be fine.
Yeah, I'm going to purchase one now that you say it. But do you think that the brownout had already brought damaged to the phone? the power went on and off 4 times with me unplugging it everytime the power goes out.
Yeah, I'm going to purchase one now that you say it. But do you think that the brownout had already brought damaged to the phone? the power went on and off 4 times with me unplugging it everytime the power goes out.
Yeah, I'm going to purchase one now that you say it. But do you think that the brownout had already brought damaged to the phone? the power went on and off 4 times with me unplugging it everytime the power goes out.
Brownouts do not damage any electronics. Voltage can drop so low that incandescent bulbs dim to 50% intensity. That low voltage can be harmful to motorizied appliances (ie refrigerator). And is ideal for electronics.But do you think that the brownout had already brought damaged to the phone?
It's not bogus. The idea of a surge protector isn't to protect against brownouts, but power surges, which can also occur in an unstable electrical grid. If the OP uses a surge protector, they don't have to worry about fluctuations in electrical current.Protector recommendation is also bogus. He recommend a protector for low voltage?
You have confused two completely different devices. One is called a surge protector and does not claim to protect from destructive surges. Another is what has done surge protection even 100 years ago. You have no reason to believe a UPS is effective for hardware protection. Especially when its specification numbers do not claim that protection. Also made obvious by a reply that is devoid of numbers that make that claim. A first indication of junk science reasoning is subjective claims.If the OP uses a surge protector, they don't have to worry about fluctuations in electrical current.
I'm not confused at all. I know what I said.You have confused two completely different devices.
If you're buying a surge protector that doesn't claim to protect against surges, you're buying the wrong product. A good one does, indeed, protect against surges. Like anything, you have to shop to find the right product.One is called a surge protector and does not claim to protect from destructive surges.
I didn't say anything about any UPS.You have no reason to believe a UPS is effective for hardware protection.
I know what I'm talking about. Just Google "surge protectors" and you'll find plenty of publicly available information to educate yourself.Please learn what does and what does not even claim effective protection from each type of anomaly.
Good. Post the numbers from a "good protector" that makes hundreds of thousands of joules irrelevant. Since that is what a 'good protector' does.If you're buying a surge protector that doesn't claim to protect against surges, you're buying the wrong product. A good one does, indeed, protect against surges. Like anything, you have to shop to find the right product.
Also explain why so many protectors are made obsolete by superior protection routinely inside a power supply (ie as demonstrated by numbers provided by Titntuff).
That is false. I suggest you read a bit about joules ratings and the fallacy of depending on such ratings exclusively. There are many good sources, but this should get you started. (And yes, it includes numbers.)Good. Post the numbers from a "good protector" that makes hundreds of thousands of joules irrelevant. Since that is what a 'good protector' does.
It is often claimed[by whom?] that a lower joule rating is undersized protection, since the total energy in harmful spikes can be significantly larger than this. However, if properly installed, for every joule absorbed by a protector, another 4 to 30 joules may be dissipated harmlessly into ground. An MOV-based protector (described below) with a higher let-through voltage can receive a higher joule rating, even though it lets more surge energy through to the device to be protected.
The joule rating is a commonly quoted but very misleading parameter for comparing MOV-based surge protectors. A surge of any arbitrary ampere and voltage combination can occur in time, but surges commonly last only for nanoseconds to microseconds, and experimentally modeled surge energy has been far under 100 joules.[7] Well-designed surge protectors should not rely on MOVs to absorb surge energy, but instead to survive the process of harmlessly redirecting it to ground.
Generally, more joules means an MOV absorbs less energy while diverting even more into ground.
According to industry standards[citation needed], power line surges inside a building can be up to 6,000 volts, 3,000 amperes, and deliver up to 90 joules of energy, including surges from external sources.
Lightning and other high-energy transient voltage surges can be suppressed with a whole house surge protector. These products are more expensive than simple single-outlet surge protectors, and often need professional installation on the incoming electrical power feed; however, they provide whole house protection from surges via that path. Damage from direct lightning strikes via other paths must be controlled separately.
When you quote only my post and respond to it, anyone reading the thread with a bit of common sense would assume you're referring to the quoted post. If your post includes responses to other posts, quoting them as well would make your response less ambiguous.Did someone else recommend a UPS? Yes. So the UPS discussion applies completely. Please stop assuming everything is posted only for you.
I'm not emotional at all about things posted in an internet forum, and nothing in my posts would suggest otherwise.Please be less emotional.
Why does physical size have any relevance? Even that phone charger has similar robust spec numbers. Like a computer with a universal supply, a phone charger also considers perfectly normal any input voltage from 85 to 265 volts. As was an industry standard long before PCs existing, that charger must also withstand transients exceeding 600 volts without damage.You mean a computer power supply or any power supply? Because we're talking about a tiny iPhone charger, not a desktop computer.
Your nasty tone says why you do not understand even the Wikipedia quote. Insufficient technical knowledge and an education only from soundbytes mean you have no ideal what your own citation says. Little hint - author of those paragraphs is syaing you did not understand. Have confused plug-in protectors with something that is completely different - that actually does protection.I suggest you read a bit about joules ratings and the fallacy of depending on such ratings exclusively. There are many good sources, but this should get you started. (And yes, it includes numbers.)
So 1) how many joules does your protector absorb? You never say for one simple reason. It joules numbers are near zero hundreds or a thousand joules. Meaning it absorbs even more energy.This number defines how much energy an MOV-based surge protector can theoretically absorb in a single event, without failure. Counter-intuitively, a lower number may indicate longer life expectancy if the device can divert more energy elsewhere and thus absorb less energy.
My tone isn't nasty. If you take it as such, perhaps you can take your own advice and be less emotional.Your nasty tone says why you do not understand even the Wikipedia quote.
Your tone has clearly been condescending. Now, lets continue with your last paragraph that is technical. A 90 joule surge is often converted by electronic appliances into low voltage DC - to power its semiconductors. Which is a good thing if a power strip protector is 'diverting' a surge. That surge gets diverted into the appliance which, in turn, converts that surge transient into useful DC currents.My tone isn't nasty. If you take it as such, perhaps you can take your own advice and be less emotional.
Again, it's clear you're trying to read an emotional element into my posts that is simply not there. Perhaps you feel overly sensitive or threatened or some other emotional response to those who don't agree with everything you post, but that doesn't mean others can't post without being emotionally involved. What you choose to believe or claim to know has no effect on me, so I'm not concerned with projecting any emotion in my posts. Obviously, surge protectors are useful, despite what you claim, or Apple wouldn't be selling them or suggesting their use.Your tone has clearly been condescending.
Your tone clearly has been condescending. An informed adult would have posted reasons why a statement is wrong. You never do. Empty denials are also condescending. Your rare post that included a technical number (90 joules) demonstrates why you are posting advertising myths and adversarial denials. And not posting what actually does protection.Again, it's clear you're trying to read an emotional element into my posts that is simply not there.
All appliances already have superior protection. For example, ethernet ports must withstand up to 2000 volts without damage. Often a surge too tiny to damage appliances will destroy a grossly undersized protector - rated at (near zero) hundreds of joules. Undersizing gets the naive to recommend an obscenely profitable protector. Put some ten cent protector parts in a $3 power strip. Sell it for $25 or $80. The naive then assume a failed and undersized protector 'sacrificed itself'. A classic example of junk science reasoning that works on the many who just *know* a protector did protection.You also haven't explained why millions of users over decades have used surge protectors that successfully shielded electronics from power surges.