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davidg4781

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I have a friend whose kid is asking for a gaming PC or console . I'm leaning towards getting him a PS5 but that's not what most of his friends have. And I'm the tech expert so she's asking me about it. I know it should have great specs and maybe I'm getting older or maybe I'm fine with my Mac, but 240 fps isn't worth it; I'm sure 60 fps is just fine.

As far as I know, it's for games like Fortnight and Roblox. I don't think it's for anything too taxing.

But I have no idea where to start. Search for gaming PC on Amazon? BestBuy? Dell? Gateway? MacBook Pro?

Pre-2006, l built my own PCs to my specs. Mostly AMD and Nvidia. Then I bought my first MacBook and I haven't messed with this stuff since.
 
I have a friend whose kid is asking for a gaming PC or console . I'm leaning towards getting him a PS5 but that's not what most of his friends have. And I'm the tech expert so she's asking me about it. I know it should have great specs and maybe I'm getting older or maybe I'm fine with my Mac, but 240 fps isn't worth it; I'm sure 60 fps is just fine.

As far as I know, it's for games like Fortnight and Roblox. I don't think it's for anything too taxing.

But I have no idea where to start. Search for gaming PC on Amazon? BestBuy? Dell? Gateway? MacBook Pro?

Pre-2006, l built my own PCs to my specs. Mostly AMD and Nvidia. Then I bought my first MacBook and I haven't messed with this stuff since.

Need to ask about budget, the games to play. Then find a teenager who has built a few rigs and see what he or she says.
 
Here’s your answer.

I think Cyberpunk 2077 at high-settings, is the benchmark requirement right now for youngsters.
I personally would love Half Life Alyx on VR.
For both these games, the graphics card will cost an awful lot.
So, best to get some min/max specs from those games, and choose the graphic card that will support them at high frame-rates. 60fps bare minimum.
Then build the PC around the graphics card. But really, $2000 is insane for a youngster, just for this year’s releases.
A static PC tower is not really child-friendly anyway, as their bedroom quickly turns into a high-tech prison cell. Also, it’s complicated to take it away, if you wish to apply some needed discipline, or game-time restrictions.
Much better to have a smaller, but more modern ‘device’. But read on.

I’m not sure people are buying PS5’s, for whatever reason - although they are pushing them now at toddlers in TV ads here in the UK. Like the PC tower, I don’t think they make sense for an active youngster.
There is the Steamdeck to consider. Please read on. Before tonight, Steamdeck was just a name to me.
I remember when the Nintendo Gamegear came out late 80’s, with Sonic the Hedgehog. People couldn’t put it down. That and the original Gameboy were super little machines. But this was before Megadrives and PC’s - which then anchored kids to TV’s. Technology has now caught up, and is miniaturised enough to make something really small, tactile, yet powerful.
The Steamdeck is like an internet Gamegear, but with huge power, and with access to millions of games. Unless your friend has a specific game in mind, a Steam account might be a good start.
Sometimes kids don’t know what they want until they’ve got it, after all.

I guess the Steamdeck can mirror to a big screen, and obviously has online multi-player capabilities, depending on the game.

The only one to consider is the top spec 1TB glass-screened Oled model. Better battery-life, better wi-fi. Games can be stored on extra SD-cards too. Around $650 new, plus a Steam account.
There are even ultra-hacked after-market versions!



I’m going to look at the Steamdeck right now. If I find anything interesting I’ll report back.

Edit. You can buy powered docks for the Steamdeck, that will output to a bigger gaming monitor, and then use a separate controller which you can bash about. The dock can also hold SD cards, and some can support big HDD’s, for huge libraries of games.
You can just plug a USB-C to HDMI adaptor into it anyway, but you don’t want to be waving the thing around with any cables connected - which is why a dock at home is best, and battery-powered handheld/standalone on the move, or for physical games.
So, if your friend can narrow down a list of games required - have a look and see if Steam support them. This might be your best option, rather than building a $2000 PC.
ProtonDB is the current database for Steam-compatible PC games.
A fully kitted out Steamdeck Oled with dock and controller and SD card will be around $800. Then any fast monitor that can go to 90hz, is ideal. He/She might already have one - even 60hz is do-able.

The Steamdeck also contains a 6-way low-latency gyro-sensor. So can be used as a steering wheel for the latest driving games etc.

Steamdeck can install multiple operating systems - so can be a Windows computer for other stuff - like homework! Lol. The official Steam dock is only £60. Basically turning your Steamdeck into a Windows desktop computer. It can be controlled by Bluetooth devices like a mouse or keyboard, and you can hook up a USB-C hub to it too. This opens up gaming possibilities too, if the friends are into a niche Windows-based game. I think it’s possible.
The Steam game library is truly massive. From Space Invaders right the way through to recent releases.
50 years of gaming, in something you can hold in one hand!

Lastly, the real good news.
Cyberpunk 2077 is now a verified game to play on Steamdeck!!!
So it really is a true up to date gaming contender.

Fortnight can definitely be played if you install Windows on the Steamdeck.
Roblox isn’t so friendly with Steamdeck, due to it’s anti-cheat mechanism, but there are successful workarounds if you reduce security temporarily.
Plenty of online help pages to get you there.

And for me..

Wow. What a great little machine.
I think if you dumped one of these in their hands, they won’t be disappointed.
Do get the dock, extra controller, monitor-cable and a big SD card to go with the 1TB Oled Steamdeck - and that is one hell of a setup.
Add a Bluetooth mouse, keyboard and headset if needed.
The Steamdeck has an onscreen keyboard anyway, and the twin trackpads make cursor movement easy.
I think it’s awesome, and the screen is a good size.


Looks really great, and futuristic.

If they have a younger sister or brother, then the base model Steamdeck is much, much cheaper - and they can have fun playing each other online, if both have one. The Steamdeck does support two controllers, so two players can play on one machine. The Steam controllers have gyro.

Steam are also offering up to 20% off on refurbished units.
 
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As far as I know, it's for games like Fortnight and Roblox. I don't think it's for anything too taxing.
If these are the games, then this opens the door to a lower spec'd gaming pc.
the games to play.
He mentions fortnight and roblox

But I have no idea where to start. Search for gaming PC on Amazon? BestBuy? Dell? Gateway? MacBook Pro?
If you have a Microcenter near you, definitely pay them a visit. Avoid Dell, Gateway and Bestbuy like the norovirus

You're better off building it yourself, this will save you money and allow you to pick exactly the parts you want. for lower end games, consider a RTX 5060 or 5070 for the GPU and Ryzen 7 7800X3D. Visit https://pcpartpicker.com/ it allows you to build your pc. Also look at YT like Pauls hardware where he has a number of pc building videos.

As for PC vs. Console, if you have no other need for a PC, its strictly goingn to be playing games, then the cost/benefit is easily with a PS5. The advantages of the console include being in a location like a living room so you can monitor what they're doing, is cheaper then a PC, and doesn't require an investment in time in learning.

The downsides of the console is that some games may not be available (pc has a larger inventory) but the ones you mentioned are, controller vs. keyboard and mouse. I find its better for most games to use a keyboard and mouse, maybe others think otherwise.

If it were me, and my kid just wanted to play games and the family had little to no desire to get a computer for other tasks, I'd just get the console.
 
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