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mashinhead

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I have an original iphone, i know you have to downgrade it to unlock it. But can you end up with a 1.1.3 unlocked iphone? Where is the best place to get instructions on this? Has anyone successfully done this?
 
The OP asked about unlocking not jailbreaking. And an OOTB or a regularly upgraded 1.1.3 iphone through iTunes cannot be unlocked. Only if you use the special upgrade methods will you avoid upgrading your Bootloader which is the vital part of an unlock. Correct me if I'm wrong :)

i apologize, you are right
 
The OP asked about unlocking not jailbreaking. And an OOTB or a regularly upgraded 1.1.3 iphone through iTunes cannot be unlocked. Only if you use the special upgrade methods will you avoid upgrading your Bootloader which is the vital part of an unlock. Correct me if I'm wrong :)

well mine isn't 1.1.3 OOTB. i can downgrade the firmware, and i know i can do that and and unlock it at the 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 levels. but can i do it at the 1.1.3 level? I have to go back to 1.1.1 and slowly upgrade to do that? How does that work?
 
well mine isn't 1.1.3 OOTB. i can downgrade the firmware, and i know i can do that and and unlock it at the 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 levels. but can i do it at the 1.1.3 level? I have to go back to 1.1.1 and slowly upgrade to do that? How does that work?

Are you already jailbroken with 1.1.3 or did you do a legit upgrade through iTunes? What exactly is your situation as far as carriers go?
 
Are you already jailbroken with 1.1.3 or did you do a legit upgrade through iTunes? What exactly is your situation as far as carriers go?

legit upgrade. but it was jailbroken before that at 1.1.1 and 1.1.2
 
at&t but i want to unlock it for travel.

I don't know a whole lot about roaming charges, but what to you hope to gain? Like you go to Europe and pop in a new SIM? This is important because unlocking is mostly for entirely different SIMs. If you still plan on using the AT&T SIM card you have now it's a whole different story and I may be able to help. But if it is a multiple SIM card thing you want, you may be out of luck for now.
 
I don't know a whole lot about roaming charges, but what to you hope to gain? Like you go to Europe and pop in a new SIM? This is important because unlocking is mostly for entirely different SIMs. If you still plan on using the AT&T SIM card you have now it's a whole different story and I may be able to help. But if it is a multiple SIM card thing you want, you may be out of luck for now.

well yea i would like to just drop in a sim. what do you mean, that you have to go thorugh different unlocking process for each sim depending on the company. what about anysim? Does that only work in 1.1.2? Or not at all now since i upgraded legit to 1.1.3? Can i downgrade? Is there another solution to this?
 
well yea i would like to just drop in a sim. what do you mean, that you have to go thorugh different unlocking process for each sim depending on the company. what about anysim? Does that only work in 1.1.2? Or not at all now since i upgraded legit to 1.1.3? Can i downgrade? Is there another solution to this?

Okay heres what I know:

1. Since you have upgraded through iTunes to 1.1.3 legit, you have a new bootloader which means no unlock at all. I mean AT ALL. (as far as I know legit 1.1.3 phones can't even use a TurboSim or the like.)

2. You may be able to downgrade to jailbreak and activate back up to 1.1.3 if you continue to use the AT&T SIM card. There is actually a wonderful guide on this site detailing such a process.

3. The new bootloader is the real problem in all of this. AnySIM will do an unlock for the older bootloader no problemo, but not the newer one. As far as I know, doing a legit upgrade to 1.1.3 puts the new bootloader on, thus making you screwed.

4. If you did have an older phone with an older bootloader you could indeed you AnySIM and it would do as you wanted it to. These phones are selling on eBay for a huge premium.

Sorry, hope this answers your questions
 
i got the 16gb iphone yesterday - downgraded to 1.1.1 - used oktoprep - brought it to 1.1.2 and then used the offical dev team 113 update and now it's running jailbroken on 113 :)
 
if i dont travel out of the country much and use AT&T for service, is there any real advantage to unlockingthe phone? the more i read about all of this, the more confused I get.
 
if i dont travel out of the country much and use AT&T for service, is there any real advantage to unlockingthe phone? the more i read about all of this, the more confused I get.

There is NO advantage for you to unlock. However, jailbreaking is a different story. They are two entirely different beasts and both have different ups and downs. I did not unlock because I just have ATT (so no need), I did jailbreak though so I didn't have to extend my stupid contract :)
 
i got the 16gb iphone yesterday - downgraded to 1.1.1 - used oktoprep - brought it to 1.1.2 and then used the offical dev team 113 update and now it's running jailbroken on 113 :)

Hi .
I bougth 16gb Iphone yesterday too...may you tell me how did you unlock it ?
How did you downgrade to 1.1.1 ?
Please , help me

Thks
 
There is NO advantage for you to unlock. However, jailbreaking is a different story. They are two entirely different beasts and both have different ups and downs. I did not unlock because I just have ATT (so no need), I did jailbreak though so I didn't have to extend my stupid contract :)

Well an advantage to not unlocking is continuing with a grandfathered plan from your present provider.

And another is not having to pay ridiculous international rates when travelling outside of the US

There is officially a way to unlock OTB 1.1.3 firmware. So the OP has an option if he's command line savvy.
 
1. Since you have upgraded through iTunes to 1.1.3 legit, you have a new bootloader which means no unlock at all. I mean AT ALL. (as far as I know legit 1.1.3 phones can't even use a TurboSim or the like.)
The new unlock by geohot makes this all somewhat moot, but I was under the impression that although the baseband and firmware was updated by iTunes, the bootloader was not touched by Apple (as any error there = instant and real brick, so possibly too dangerous). So if you have a 3.9, you are not upgraded to 4.6 by iTunes. That's not to say a future update might not update the bootloader on you, just as far as I'm aware none of them so far do - you are stuck with what you had when you bought it (thus all the x.x.x OTB talk).
 
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