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Casino Royale is next Bond movie
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edesignuk said:w00t! I'm gagging for my next Bond movie fix!!
Man, I was really holding out for the Quentin Tarantino rumor to come true, all though I knew deep down that there was no way in hell that MGM would let him do it.
Here's to hoping that going back to the original book will actually breathe some more realism into the movie's. I know that Bond films aren't known for their realism, and in fact that is the appeal to them, but the last few have been horrible, I mean, out driving a huge laser in space, on top of a cracking glacier, then when the glacier crackes you "kite surf" ride the huge Typhoon wave using a car fin and a parachute? Seriously, that's when I was telling myself, "Should I or shouldn't I walk out of this movie right now".
In my opinion the last great bond movie was Goldeneye, so it's good to see that the same director is going to head up Casino Royale. I wonder who they are going to choose this time? Would be cool if Connery came back, I don't care how old he is, he will always be Bond to me, and more believble than all the others.
It'll be interesting to see how they develop the book into a screenplay. Since there was not a whole lot of plot to the book and dealt, more or less, with Bond falling for the female agent assigned to him as well as introducing the character of James Bond. Or maybe they are just borrowing the title. The last few movies titles were not even Ian Fleming books. Although "Tomorrow Never Dies" is the Bond-clan motto.
Sorry. "The World Is Not Enough" is the Bond family motto. We learn that in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." It's also referenced in the Bond movie of the same name.dejo said:
KING: You could have had the world.
BOND: The world is not enough.
KING: Foolish sentiment.
BOND: Family motto.
Don't mess with my Bond knowledge!
re: Previous Bond Titles
"The Living Daylights" was from an Ian Fleming short story dealing with the female sniper.
"License to Kill" was originally "Licensed Revoked" but changed because the producers feared that US audiences wouldn't know what "revoked" meant.
"Goldeneye" was a reference to Ian Fleming's home of the same name.
"Tomorrow Never Dies" has no historical Bond reference that I know of.
"The World Is Not Enough" I already covered above.
"Die Another Day" has no historical Bond reference that I know of.
"The Living Daylights" was from an Ian Fleming short story dealing with the female sniper.
"License to Kill" was originally "Licensed Revoked" but changed because the producers feared that US audiences wouldn't know what "revoked" meant.
"Goldeneye" was a reference to Ian Fleming's home of the same name.
"Tomorrow Never Dies" has no historical Bond reference that I know of.
"The World Is Not Enough" I already covered above.
"Die Another Day" has no historical Bond reference that I know of.
The only thing is din't like in Die Another Day is the bloody "Stealth" mode on the Astin Martin.
Its just too fantastical,
Moonraker is a bit silly, but every studio back then had to make a Space sci-fi film because of Star Wars.
Wonder if they would ever bring back Jaws? After all if James Bond is permantly mid 40's why not the other characters?
Its just too fantastical,
Moonraker is a bit silly, but every studio back then had to make a Space sci-fi film because of Star Wars.
Wonder if they would ever bring back Jaws? After all if James Bond is permantly mid 40's why not the other characters?
NO F***ING WAY! I'm sorry, James Bond cannot be a black man, just as he can't be a 4ft nothing overwieght balding dwarf. This is not a race thing, but Bond is Bond. Bond has been (for a LONG time) a 6' something white british male, you can't just change this. It'd ruin everything.patseguin said:
/agreedcombatcolin said:
I can put up with quite a bit in the name of entertainment but the cloaking car was just too much for me. What a crap movie.
Don M. said:Sorry. "The World Is Not Enough" is the Bond family motto. We learn that in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." It's also referenced in the Bond movie of the same name.
KING: You could have had the world.
BOND: The world is not enough.
KING: Foolish sentiment.
BOND: Family motto.
Don't mess with my Bond knowledge!
Oops. My bad! You're right. I'm so embarrased.
I'm surprised that Broccoli and Wilson were able to secure the rights to "Casino Royale", seeing that that was the one Bond property that was owned by somebody else. Must've paid 'em a helluva lot of money.
Incidentally, while Denzel Washington does have a great presence, I have to agree with edesignuk. If you want to make the Bond movies more realistic, first of all, go with a British actor, not an American doing a fake British accent. And, uh, Denzel would stick out like a sore thumb at a polo match on some millionaire villain's lavish estate.
Incidentally, while Denzel Washington does have a great presence, I have to agree with edesignuk. If you want to make the Bond movies more realistic, first of all, go with a British actor, not an American doing a fake British accent. And, uh, Denzel would stick out like a sore thumb at a polo match on some millionaire villain's lavish estate.
The bond series definitely needs a revamp, it's starting to get so very tired...
Brosnan was a good Bond but my God the writing Terrible.
One thing in particular - and to me this is the crux of the issue - is that the villains are just too improbable to be scary. This is the historic achilles heel of the bond series, and separates the good Bond films from the "meh" ones. We know what Bond is like, but he needs an appropriately capable opponent.
They need to either stick close to Fleming's stories (as with Casino Royale) or use today's global situations to construct a realistic nemesis for 007. Get Bond involved in foiling a believable terrorist plot, or maybe foil a sale of nukes to Iran by the Russian mob. Not the silly renegade-North-Korean-Laser nonsense. A big huge laser works in Austin Powers, not current Bond films. Give me a believable threat!
I hope that Bond film quality improves with the next batch of films.
Brosnan was a good Bond but my God the writing
Terrible. One thing in particular - and to me this is the crux of the issue - is that the villains are just too improbable to be scary. This is the historic achilles heel of the bond series, and separates the good Bond films from the "meh" ones. We know what Bond is like, but he needs an appropriately capable opponent.
They need to either stick close to Fleming's stories (as with Casino Royale) or use today's global situations to construct a realistic nemesis for 007. Get Bond involved in foiling a believable terrorist plot, or maybe foil a sale of nukes to Iran by the Russian mob. Not the silly renegade-North-Korean-Laser nonsense. A big huge laser works in Austin Powers, not current Bond films. Give me a believable threat!
I hope that Bond film quality improves with the next batch of films.
edesignuk said:
I've got mixed feeling about this. Has anyone actually read Casino Royale? It blow with the gale force of a hurricane. But if anyone can pull it off successfully Tarantino can. Who knows.
Heh. The current ad at the bottom of this thread (for me) is vintage movie posters. One of them is the Bond "From Russia With Love" poster.
I thought it was funny.
Yea, while this may sound dangerously racist, Bond is Bond -- you can't make him black, asian, or an eskimo. It just doesn't work. Oh, and lets not even discuss a female Bond.
My money is on Clive Owen.
Now if they can get the rights to SPECTRE back...now we're talking! W00t!
I thought it was funny.
Yea, while this may sound dangerously racist, Bond is Bond -- you can't make him black, asian, or an eskimo. It just doesn't work. Oh, and lets not even discuss a female Bond.
My money is on Clive Owen.
Now if they can get the rights to SPECTRE back...now we're talking! W00t!
edesignuk said:
I don't want to be racist either, but i'm with edesign. It would ruin the whole movie. I'm really saddened to see Pierce go, I guess age just caught up with him. I hate when sequels change main actors.
Out of the names I've heard, Clive Owen is the one I'd go for any day.Don M. said:
Female Bond, LOL
A black (or anything else for that matter) Bond would be like having Mel Gibson as Shaft! It just doesn't work.
Alright I've heard all the rumors about who's going to be the next Bond and the answer seems like a no brainer to me- Hugh Grant. Who better to play the smarmy, middle aged yet eternally young British agent.
And as for villians, it seems to me that the villians are best when they reside in a parallel universe to the one that actually exists where you could see there being that type of corrupt underbelly. Think "Live and Let Die", or "You Only Live Twice".
What the new movie needs is a creative henchman like Jaws, Nick Nack, or Odd Job. The original "Casino Royale" is noteworthy for it's kitsch factor which is in the stratosphere. How great to come across this thread just as I sit down with my Martini- Shaken, not stirred, of course.
And as for villians, it seems to me that the villians are best when they reside in a parallel universe to the one that actually exists where you could see there being that type of corrupt underbelly. Think "Live and Let Die", or "You Only Live Twice".
What the new movie needs is a creative henchman like Jaws, Nick Nack, or Odd Job. The original "Casino Royale" is noteworthy for it's kitsch factor which is in the stratosphere. How great to come across this thread just as I sit down with my Martini- Shaken, not stirred, of course.
I know next to nothing about the books, so I have no idea whether it's a worthy story or not. But doesn't it seem like it would be a confusing title for another Bond film? Granted, plenty of Bond fans don't consider the spoof to be a "real" Bond movie, but it's inserted itself in the series, for better or worse. After this movie gets made, describing this movie will require everyone to clarify which Bond film s/he is talking about. For marketing purposes alone, this would make it a bad idea.
Maybe they could use the "Casino Royale" story and give it a different title, like the vague names the recent ones have had.
Maybe they could use the "Casino Royale" story and give it a different title, like the vague names the recent ones have had.
SiliconAddict said:I've got mixed feeling about this. Has anyone actually read Casino Royale? It blow with the gale force of a hurricane. But if anyone can pull it off successfully Tarantino can. Who knows.
Not a single Bond film in history has actually been based on the book it was named after.
I expect this one to be no different.
edesignuk said:
yeah im sorry a black bond just wont do. 20 movies with white bonds...chaging a the formula now would be stupid
