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CELL PHONES FROM THE FUTURE (NEW SE MODELS)

well me being a technology slut i will probably get one of these to replace my t616, and my t68i just sits there all alone.

iJon
 
I really like the look of the S700i, but where is the keypad.


It is looking like Steve Jobs (and many others) will be proved right very soon. The S700i could actually pass as a PocketPC if you didn't know it was a cell phone.
 
cool! they look like the phones here in Japan. the latest model from j-phone/vodafone has a 2megapixel CCD camera with zoom, video recording, an SD data card, and you can also watch the basic tv channels :) if you've heard about BowLingual (the dog translator), the phone is also equipped to decipher your dog. :D i heard they're working on ways to use your phone as a credit card, and also as a ticket card for riding the trains/subways. it's too bad they don't export these phones to the states! the ones I've seen advertised there look like my Japanese phone from 3 years ago.
 
The_Dood said:
cool! they look like the phones here in Japan. the latest model from j-phone/vodafone has a 2megapixel CCD camera with zoom, video recording, an SD data card, and you can also watch the basic tv channels :) if you've heard about BowLingual (the dog translator), the phone is also equipped to decipher your dog. :D i heard they're working on ways to use your phone as a credit card, and also as a ticket card for riding the trains/subways. it's too bad they don't export these phones to the states! the ones I've seen advertised there look like my Japanese phone from 3 years ago.
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Yep, Japan is the place for future tech now. It helps that their phone network is advanced, a form of 3G that supports video etc.
 
Why can't SE sell a phone that has all of the features of the S700 without the camera? I work in a classified environment and any kind of photographic equipment is strictly prohibited. I am assuming that, in the next year or two, I simple will not be able to have a cell phone at work since they will ALL have cameras built-in.

GRRR..

Hickman
 
jiggie2g said:
The Star Trek Phones are almost here.
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Begging to differ. The phones today are smaller and have more features than the "Star Trek Communicator", well except for those broaches they wear, and they might not work from orbit :)

I can't find the quote anywhere but I remember Nimoy saying in an interview that he was stopped one time on the street by a fan. Seems he was walking along talking on a "Flip" phone, and he hadn't noticed how Trekkie it seemed till someone pointed it out. "Hey it's Spock on his communicator" This was easily 10 years ago, back when Flip cell phones were much larger, about the size of the original ST comm device.

Hmm I found this:
Source Leonard Nimoy, Mr. Spock in the popular TV and movie series Star Trek, once commented that people would stare at him, point, and laugh whenever he got caught using his cell-phone in public. He wondered about that for a while, until he realized that it looked just like the flip-open communicator he would use to hail the starship Enterprise, as in “Beam me up, Scotty!”
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Brian Hickman said:
Why can't SE sell a phone that has all of the features of the S700 without the camera? I work in a classified environment and any kind of photographic equipment is strictly prohibited. I am assuming that, in the next year or two, I simple will not be able to have a cell phone at work since they will ALL have cameras built-in.

GRRR..

Hickman
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Agreed. Why can't anyone sell a phone with advanced features but no camera? A few have come out, but it seems like the camera is the must have. Do people really use the camera a lot? I can understand the novelty, and the occasional use (e.g., a car accident), but it's hardly a must-have feature to me. Am I just a fuddy-duddy on that?
 
Le Big Mac said:
Agreed. Why can't anyone sell a phone with advanced features but no camera? A few have come out, but it seems like the camera is the must have. Do people really use the camera a lot? I can understand the novelty, and the occasional use (e.g., a car accident), but it's hardly a must-have feature to me. Am I just a fuddy-duddy on that?
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It is a potential profit center for the cell phone companies. thats why.....
 
CAmera on cell phone is a product without a market. Yet the company want to sell them because as someone pointed out, these are profit center and more important, they are about the last frontier were company can compare their product againts the competition. People know what 1mega pixel is, so ifyou have the choice between a phone with a 1.2mp or a 1.4mp, you will take the 1.4 one. On the other hand, there is no way 'on paper' to evaluate the sound quality of the speaker or the mic.

Here in Montréal (Canada) we see a lot of advertisement to sell these phones. They are targeted mainly at the 16-20y but with such a high price tag and no real use, they arent selling much. The only thing they can say in the adds is 'its cool to be able to take picture with the phone'... Ya right, for the same price you can get a cell phone + a small 2-3mp digi cam with a better lens...
 
Mantat said:
CAmera on cell phone is a product without a market. Yet the company want to sell them because as someone pointed out, these are profit center and more important, they are about the last frontier were company can compare their product againts the competition. SNIP
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Gotta disagree with this.

More digital cameras in phones is the boom area of the digital camera market and is hurting "stand alone" digital camera sales.
http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/33044.html
http://www.taiwanheadlines.gov.tw/20040109/20040109b2.html
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2003/tc2003129_4660_tc137.htm

They outsell normal digital cameras now having overtaken sales in 2003
Camera phones outsell digital cameras

http://www.digicamera.com/news.htm
alf of 2003, 25 million camera phones were sold compared to 20 million digital cameras. Almost half of those come from Panasonic, NEC, and Nokia. Camera phones, the report says, are no near-term threat to digital cameras due to their sold by camera phones. In the first half of 2003, 25 million camera phones were sold compared to 20 million digital cameras. Almost half of those come from Panasonic, NEC, and Nokia. Camera phones, the report says, are no near-term threat to digital cameras due to their calf of 2003, 25 million camera phones were sold compared to 20 million digital cameras. Almost half of those come from Panasonic, NEC, and Nokia. Camera phones, the report says, are no near-term threat to digital cameras due to their sold by camera phone -- Posted Thursday, October 30, 2003 by


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aswitcher said:
Gotta disagree with this.
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Wow... I cant relate to these numbers here in my area! Maybe its popular in Japan / europe but I have yet yo see a single person use one of these phone-cam in any place I go...

Well, not the first time I am wrong... today...
 
Mantat said:
Wow... I cant relate to these numbers here in my area! Maybe its popular in Japan / europe but I have yet yo see a single person use one of these phone-cam in any place I go...

Well, not the first time I am wrong... today...
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Ok, well if your in the USA you are in a country with arguably the most complex and flakey (technical term) wireless phone system of all "westernised" and most Asian countries. Because of this the USA is a slow adopter of mobile (sorry Cell) phone technology.

Another stat that comes to mind is that by iirc 2006, over 30% of ALL mobile/cell phones will have cameras...unless of course privacy law backlashes (which are occuring now) impede that rise.
 
Well I am perfectly happy with my T68i and while I know a lot of people with t616 etc, I can think of 3 straight off, 1 uses the camera occasionally the other 2 I have never seen them use the camera ,where as real digital cameras get used a lot.
 
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