http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/06/07/china.internet.reut/index.html
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China attempts to gag the web
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I don't get it. China can't filter out EVERY website from outside China, can it?
Does it filter out Google? You can search for pretty much everything on Google.
Does it filter out Google? You can search for pretty much everything on Google.
Go China Government!!! 
Makes me value my freedoms a bit more, and I bet the same goes true for people of other free speaking nations !
Makes me value my freedoms a bit more, and I bet the same goes true for people of other free speaking nations !
I just came back from a 3 and a half week grad trip to China and here are my opinions on internet access there. Whatever censorship they do have there is fairly transparent. On a 2meg ADSL line, domestic web sites hosted inside of China were relatively speedy, but any foreign websites such as Google, Yahoo, Cnet, etc. were really slow, but definitely accessible. This may be due to the censoring proxy servers that all acts as a middleman to out-of-country servers, but it could also be due to relatively slow main pipes that connect to other countries.
The country overall is nothing like I expected it to be, expecially after hearing about all of the government crackdowns and "oppression" stories here in the media. What I found instead was that many cities in China are becoming a lot like the larger cities in Japan--thriving, high tech metropolitan centers that resemble western cities like new york or chicago, but with a slightly different feel that you can't quite place. There isn't any real feeling of big brother looking down on you, or of police officers oppressing the people. Many people start off their day at the local Starbucks and then grab some food from a McDonald's or KFC for lunch and then work until very late in the evening, when they'd go out for a drink during happy hour. All in all, cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhow, etc. feel like Washington, New York, and San Diego, respectively but with much thinner women.
The country overall is nothing like I expected it to be, expecially after hearing about all of the government crackdowns and "oppression" stories here in the media. What I found instead was that many cities in China are becoming a lot like the larger cities in Japan--thriving, high tech metropolitan centers that resemble western cities like new york or chicago, but with a slightly different feel that you can't quite place. There isn't any real feeling of big brother looking down on you, or of police officers oppressing the people. Many people start off their day at the local Starbucks and then grab some food from a McDonald's or KFC for lunch and then work until very late in the evening, when they'd go out for a drink during happy hour. All in all, cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhow, etc. feel like Washington, New York, and San Diego, respectively but with much thinner women
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edesignuk said:That is shocking. Who the hell do they think they are...oh wait, the Chinese Government
lol, that's awesome.
China blocks gmail last i heard.
AhmedFaisal said:
Since public libraries in the US are run by local governments, that would have to be one huge consipracy...
I've never had any trouble accessing any website at a library....besides pornographic websites (..erm, don't go to those at a library...that's just common knowledge)
I think the US is far-far from the freedom they preach... just as they are far-far from human rights they preach and condemn other countries but when it comes to them it's allways "not the same"... just as how they smashed a whole country as Irak with fake "intelligence" and didn't even say sorry for the mess (as if it made a difference anyway)...
freedom of speech and human rights are only practiced when it's convenient. Otherwise, it's more profitable to be a hypocrite
<thought bubble> Enter glasses-wearing, ponytailed, militant right-wing librarians packing heat under their puritanical skirts... <poof>snkTab said:
Cue cold shower.
Eeesh...just read the article and my skin is still crawling.mactastic said:
Although, putting it into perspective, I haven't seen any scientific evidence explaining how my house got here...
...or where my pants came from. And they do fit remarkably well.
Article summary: In China, if you want a web site - even just a few HTML pages - you now have to register with the government.
Those poor folks...
Those poor folks...
topicolo said:
Topicolo, you hit point took me several years to realize about the manipulation of the media ACTUALLY in the US!
To give you a bit of my back ground. I am from Venezuela, I live in Miami FL for the last year. Last year I was living in NY since january and then I moved here. I was an exchange student in Arkansas back in 1992 and after that I went to college between 97-98 in Orlando. Despite I have been traveling back and forward since I was 7.
The point is that I realize that actually the US (some one in the governemnet, hollywood, I dunno) is making an intense media effor to distortionate the image of the outside world.
sadly I have been only in Germany besides Venezuela and the US. But actually the image I had from the german people was inducted by the US point of view because many of our tv programing and films comes from here (the US).
A friend of mine came a week ago to Miami and he told me after watching CNN that the news were something so unrealistic compared with what is really going on outside.
I told him: the media in the US is conceived in a way to make the US citizen be dump and ignorant!
Actually the History Channel and Discovery we watch in Venezuela is way more advanced and interesting than the one I watch here.
Some things are really amazing when you get to travel and really pay attention to things.
Very good you mention that because it goes even beyond.
fox2005 said:
Is that some sort of international spelling? Before you pretend to understand world politics and condemn a country it sounds like you don't live in, perhaps you could buff up on politics, religious beliefs, and moral obligations.
Oh yeah, and how to properly spell "Iraq".
Peace,
~Tyler
mymemory said:
It's good to see with your world-travelling experience that you make blanket statements.
mymemory said:
That's because our Discovery channel is about Venezuela
In my backpacking through central america (mostly Guatemala and Costa Rica) I found that the Discovery channel appeared to be the same one I watched in the US, minus any material on central america its self. Which makes sense. People are more interested in discovering things outside of their own world, or things they may never see with their own eyes.
Goes for the history channel to. People are more interested in their OWN history, not someone else's. That doesn't mean that learning someone else's history isn't important, just that that doesn't sell ratings. If the history channel started doing show after show on Venezuela and all the intricacies of the country, the History channel would lose all it's ratings (in the US) all it's money, and cease to exist.
And I watch the BBC and CNN. If those are warped then it's not just a US thing, it's anyone that watches or listens to the BBC or CNN, which might be just a few more people that the US and Britain
~Tyler
~Earendil
AhmedFaisal said:
what is this religion you speak of? maybe in the south people are religious but not in the north east, hell 75% of the patients at the hospital i work for when asked "do you have a religion preference?" they say "no"
i know i am not some friggen religious baby, agnostic is the way to be, or atheist whichever floats your boat
eva01 said:
I'm sure there are a number of people on this board that would appreciate it if you showed at least a little respect and perhaps reworded that. But it's up to you.
Earendil said:
I suppose that my typo makes my opinion invalid and biased... i'm sorry for that all you people, i forgot that to understand world politics you have to be an average joe and take for granted what is printed in newsweek...
PD. if your discussion is on iraq mabe we should be talking of world economics and not world politics...