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MacAttackMark

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So I'm trying to weigh down the pros and cons for an air and the retina.
So out of curiosity, what are current problems the 2013 is facing? A very common one I've seen is the wifi problems anything else?
 
So far, from all the messages

1. wifi
2. corrupted screen (ram?)
3. screen goes blank
4. photoshop flickering
5. speaker volume fluctuation
 
So far, from all the messages

1. wifi
2. corrupted screen (ram?)
3. screen goes blank
4. photoshop flickering
5. speaker volume fluctuation

And then there's bad luck Brian, who undoubtedly has all of the above + 1 :D
 
First one was returned due to the 'normal' back-light grey gradient on the very bottom of the screen (turns out they all have them).

My second one has developed a creaky hinge (my OSD starts up lol)

Apart from that it's been a great solid little machine.
 
First one was returned due to the 'normal' back-light grey gradient on the very bottom of the screen (turns out they all have them)./QUOTE]

Yes! Especially the 11" model. A colleague of mine bought an 11" MBA last week and had to return it because the backlighting was badly uneven in both lower corners and there were brighter circular spots along the bottom quarter. Much worse than mine :eek:
 
Well, I have a few problems, but then again these are my personal gripes. Others may not have a problem with the first three. I've been using my MBA 13 i7/8gb/256gb for a week now.

1. Display: I'm not used to the retina display, so I'm not missing that. That being said, the screen is somehow too soft/blurry for me. Maybe it's just that my age is showing and my eyes are not in top notch condition anymore, but writing and reading on MBA for long periods of time is clearly straining my eyes, unlike i.e. my Asus laptop running Ubuntu. I have the LG panel, and have calibrated the screen, didn't really help. Also the ever changing viewing angles are frustrating. Turn your head a bit, and you have to adjust the screen (or the laptop) especially when working on a dark background (I prefer to do my coding and other writing on black/dark background to reduce the eyestrain).

2. Battery life: I don't think I have a faulty unit or anything, but the battery life was bit of a let down. Yes, I get the promised 9 - 12 hours of battery life, but only if I don't do anything else but use lightweight text editors and surf with Safari on pages that don't have flash. Anything more taxing will start draining the battery pretty fast. Again, I get that this machine is meant mainly for light work on the go, but after all the hype it's still a tad underwhelming to get 3 - 5 hours of battery life while i.e. coding (Java + iOS). Don't get me wrong, it's still a decent amount of time, but yes, I expected more. Then again, given how much eyestrain I get from working on code/text on this machine for a long periods of time, then maybe it's a good thing the battery dies before my eyes do.

3. Heat: In this department I do wonder if I did get a faulty unit. When I got this machine I installed a few programs, heaviest being Xcode. I had my machine plugged in when installing/extracting programs, and when I installed Xcode the area near the hinge was almost too hot to touch. The same thing happens when playing games or compiling Java/iOS code. As for games Civ V runs surprisingly well (at least on my standards) on this machine, but it will generate a huge amount of heat on the upper left corner of the keyboard and the hinge area. It's almost scary. So, when the MBA is not under heavy stress it's cool as a cucumber, but introduce more stress and you have to mind your fingers.

4. Thunderbolt port/connecting an external monitor: I have two years old HP monitor, native resolution is 1920 * 1200. I can't get the monitor to work with the MBA. The first time I connected it the monitor showed the desktop briefly but then went black, and after that connecting it to the MBA has done nothing. The monitor don't seem to be receiving a signal from the MBA as it always shows all ports as inactive when connected to the MBA, so I'm wondering if the Thunderbolt port fried the first time I tried to connect it. I've tried connecting it using the Thunderbolt - DVI adapter and Thunderbolt - display port adapter, no dice (the monitor doesn't have an HDMI port). With Win 7 and linux the monitor works just fine.

So yeah. I have mixed feelings about this laptop, and I am considering returning it. I may have a faulty unit (at least the Thunderbolt port seems to be dead), but I'm not sure if I'm willing to try another MBA because of the other issues (mainly the display). Then again, the form factor and weight are a big plus, and the battery life and the overall performance are decent enough while doing more demanding stuff. So I'm still undecided.
 
First one was returned due to the 'normal' back-light grey gradient on the very bottom of the screen (turns out they all have them)./QUOTE]

Yes! Especially the 11" model. A colleague of mine bought an 11" MBA last week and had to return it because the backlighting was badly uneven in both lower corners and there were brighter circular spots along the bottom quarter. Much worse than mine :eek:

Speaking about light bleed, in an apple retail store, the 11 inch model got this light bleed problem (bottom middle, like a 180 degree arc) but not in 13 inch model. The guy told me that one was faulty coz many people
brutally tested it in show room. So bad i forgot to check which panel it was (the colour seems quite vivid).
 
I've been using my MBA for a few days now. I had the wi-fi problem once during my first restart. I'm not bothered by it since it was my first reboot and it never happened again.

Twice, I saw one horizontal line in the middle of my screen that disappeared after about five seconds. I don't know if I should be bothered by it. A part of me thinks that it's all my imagination and my mind is making up things given that there are several people encountering screen problems. I'm still observing my screen and if it happens again, then I will most likely ask for a replacement (even if that means no laptop for a week!).
 
My first one wouldn't charge. Exchanged it for another and no problems what so ever.

I really love these computers. All my PC woes have become distant memories. Almost long enough that I've thought about going PC again. Then I remember why I switched in the first place and I have yet to be disappointed since the switch.

The only reason I considered another PC was the new size and form factor that has basically copied the Air. Then I see the price. More than an Air! WTF! I thought Apple products were more than PCs? Not when the PC is built to the same standard as the Apple. Then it's a bit more. So much for that myth. :apple:
 
You don't have a faulty one, more reports like this

3. Heat: In this department I do wonder if I did get a faulty unit. When I got this machine I installed a few programs, heaviest being Xcode. I had my machine plugged in when installing/extracting programs, and when I installed Xcode the area near the hinge was almost too hot to touch. The same thing happens when playing games or compiling Java/iOS code. As for games Civ V runs surprisingly well (at least on my standards) on this machine, but it will generate a huge amount of heat on the upper left corner of the keyboard and the hinge area. It's almost scary. So, when the MBA is not under heavy stress it's cool as a cucumber, but introduce more stress and you have to mind your fingers.

Same experience as you. Surfing web, streaming vides, email etc super cool and quiet machine. Start running Call of Duty and within 3-4 minutes upper left hand area is crazy hot, fans blasting and loud. I'm trying to decide between keeping the 2013 Air or a 2012 13" retina. Still can't decide. There is something about the Air I love, the form factor, battery life how cool it is normally, but when pushed the retina seems to run more smoothly overall. Since the retina is a refurb it's actually a little cheaper than the Air (both 8g, 256g configs).

The retina stays cooler in COD by the way..not sure why. I've also had 2 2013 Airs and both have the photoshop screen flicker problem and the volume fluctuation problem.

So far, no weird issues like that on the retina EXCEPT it has the image retention issue when I run the test. It's not been noticeable in day to day use at all though.
 
Same experience as you. Surfing web, streaming vides, email etc super cool and quiet machine. Start running Call of Duty and within 3-4 minutes upper left hand area is crazy hot, fans blasting and loud. I'm trying to decide between keeping the 2013 Air or a 2012 13" retina. Still can't decide. There is something about the Air I love, the form factor, battery life how cool it is normally, but when pushed the retina seems to run more smoothly overall. Since the retina is a refurb it's actually a little cheaper than the Air (both 8g, 256g configs).

The retina stays cooler in COD by the way..not sure why. I've also had 2 2013 Airs and both have the photoshop screen flicker problem and the volume fluctuation problem.

So far, no weird issues like that on the retina EXCEPT it has the image retention issue when I run the test. It's not been noticeable in day to day use at all though.

I fail to understand one simple thing: why you boys want to use a machine like an AIR for GAMING ? Get an Xbox one or PS4 lol...or if you are a retina - pixel freak, 15 inch retina pro is your best bet as it has QUAD CORE !!!
 
No problems here with mine. WiFi is rock solid, but I did have to update Photoshop CS5 to get rid of the flickering screen issue.

Very happy with the purchase
 
I fail to understand one simple thing: why you boys want to use a machine like an AIR for GAMING ? Get an Xbox one or PS4 lol...or if you are a retina - pixel freak, 15 inch retina pro is your best bet as it has QUAD CORE !!!
Why wouldn't I use it for gaming (or any other stuff that's heavy on the computer) if it can run that kind of software? I don't buy computers to use them with silk gloves. Personally I've never understood that kind of mentality. "Don't push it to the limits, it's wrong and it might break!" Well if it does, then it's poor engineering. And yes, having to mind your fingers because you use software that requires more processing power - especially when the said machine can and in fact does produce that kind of power - is poor engineering.

Thanks for the tip though. I'm sure the PS 4 will look good next to my 8 core gaming pc, PS3 and Xbox 360.
 
Why wouldn't I use it for gaming (or any other stuff that's heavy on the computer) if it can run that kind of software? I don't buy computers to use them with silk gloves. Personally I've never understood that kind of mentality. "Don't push it to the limits, it's wrong and it might break!" Well if it does, then it's poor engineering. And yes, having to mind your fingers because you use software that requires more processing power - especially when the said machine can and in fact does produce that kind of power - is poor engineering.

Thanks for the tip though. I'm sure the PS 4 will look good next to my 8 core gaming pc, PS3 and Xbox 360.

Lmao, nice try on the show-off for those gaming boxes you got in there and the so-called GIANT 8 core = piece of **** soon as world is moving towards portability and not **** bricks of steel
 
I've had my screen go blank several times. It's disconcerting. You'll wake it up from sleep, type in your password, start working, and then 10 seconds later it'll go to sleep again.
 
I've had my screen go blank several times. It's disconcerting. You'll wake it up from sleep, type in your password, start working, and then 10 seconds later it'll go to sleep again.

I've had that happen a couple times. I turn it back on and then it's fine.
 
First one was returned due to the 'normal' back-light grey gradient on the very bottom of the screen (turns out they all have them).

My second one has developed a creaky hinge (my OSD starts up lol)

Apart from that it's been a great solid little machine.

I think I'm going to return mine due to the gradient issue, it's just too irritating to me for something that costs over a grand.

I'll probably send it back and wait for the refreshed MBP to come out and probably go that route. It's a shame, if it weren't for the display issue, it would be perfecto.
 
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