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iPhone Cydia upgrade
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I’m holding off until I know it’s safe, too many unknowns right now.
Someone over on the reddit forum made the generalization that because iOS 11 is the new flavor of jailbreak that Cydia is therefore old, slow and outdated - and therefore no longer relevant. While I do not dispute that it is so for iOS 11, I pointed out that for three of my jailbreaks it is still very relevant.
I have yet to see an "update" inside Cydia for my 9.0.2, 10.3.3 and 6.1.3 jailbreaks.
I have yet to see an "update" inside Cydia for my 9.0.2, 10.3.3 and 6.1.3 jailbreaks.
I followed the guide for getting through this upgrade process which consisted of ignoring the two essential upgrades, downloading the Cydia Helper app and running that, then respringing and removing the Cydia Helper app. This worked for a day then the two upgrades showed up again.
Did my research on Reddit and saw that it was safe to install the upgrades so I did it last night and everything has been ***okay***. I've been having a lot of crashes and have had to rejailbreak twice in the last day. I think the instability may be coming from the animated lockscreen from Xenimated so I dropped that this morning and will see how it goes. I certainly hope some punk-ass kid didn't sabotage my jailbreak for his own personal reasons.
Did my research on Reddit and saw that it was safe to install the upgrades so I did it last night and everything has been ***okay***. I've been having a lot of crashes and have had to rejailbreak twice in the last day. I think the instability may be coming from the animated lockscreen from Xenimated so I dropped that this morning and will see how it goes. I certainly hope some punk-ass kid didn't sabotage my jailbreak for his own personal reasons.
What you are describing sounds scary. I will better not upgrade for now. Someone at reddit was saying that Saurik doesn’t want to keep paying for his server to keep Cydia running because he is not getting any profit with it, or not enough at least. So, if Saurik is not even caring and supporting Cydia anymore, who is sending out these upgrades?
If true then this just confirms that 9.0.2 and iPhone 6s+ are my last jailbreak and last primary phone.
I used to argue that jailbreaking was not dying, but semi-untethered jailbreaks and the difficulties surrounding iOS 11 have convinced me that at the very least, it's changed into something I am no longer interested in pursuing.
The payoff no longer exceeds the amount of work and maintenance involved in getting and keeping a jailbreak. For me anyway.
It's actually not as complicated as Reddit would lead you to believe. With Ext3nder installed, Electra is pretty much an untethered jailbreak as the certificate renews itself before expiring.
On top of that, I feel like the talent in the jailbreak community has greatly improved over the years as there's some pretty cool tweaks available. The themes are a different story but just like any other trend, tastes change and yours doesn't always follow.
I hear you. And if there were not other reasons for me to leave iPhone I might make a go of it.
However…it is true what you say about the community improving. But my problem is that in the last couple of years or so that community seems to have lost it's institutional memory/history. A lot of energy is being expended on recreating the wheel. Whether that is because devs of previous tweaks/apps are not allowing their IP to be worked on by others or simply that no one is aware a tweak for "X" exists already I'm not sure. But it amounts to the same.
The truth is that since iOS 7 we have lost a significant amount of capability due to tweaks and apps not being updated. Some of that has been gained back because it's being replicated with other tweaks. But that goes back to reinventing the wheel.
I don't deny that there has been NEW stuff, but from what I've seen the quantity and quality of that has changed. There also seems to be far more of an entitlement attitude lately. It used to be a dev announced he/she was working on a tweak and they were left alone to do it. Now, people want updates every 5 minutes and if they don't get one they start speculating about the dev's sincerity or overall integrity.
Ultimately, I don't know where jailbreaking is headed. I know it won't die, but this is where I get off the ride.
I am also thinking about switching to Android in the future. The fact of not being able to split the screen just because some dev didn’t update his tweak, simply bothers me too much. Besides, Android evolved in a way that it is a much more stable os and doesn’t crash anymore like before. So, the lack of interest in the devs community for creating or updating tweaks will push us to Android sooner or later.
I love the jailbreak community. Saurik drops a long over-due update to Cydia for unrelated reasons, and half the Coolstar kids cry conspiracy! Lol. The update works fine on 11.3.1 for me. Safari seems a little snappier too.
I don’t consider myself a Coolstar kid, however, did you do the Complete upgrade and everything is fine?
Saurik dropped an update? I’m all over the jailbreak subreddit and I don’t see anything about this.
I did both updates about a day apart. I recall reading the following before deciding to trust the updates. I could be wrong though, was this not the work of Jay Freeman?
Changes in Cydia 1.1.28
Cydia now uses APT 1.14~b
This is a major update to the core package management logic used by Cydia. This library, which is shared with Linux distributions such as Debian and Ubuntu, is an industry standard, which Cydia has been excited to share. For purposes of performance and reliability, Cydia had a number of patches to the (rather old) copy of APT it had been using. It turns out APT's upstream has been paying attention, and was excited to have us update.
The big thing to know about this change is that there are a handful of repositories that are simply broken, and older versions of Cydia failed to notice. We've had this build of Cydia in a "public beta" now for an entire month, which has been a lot of time to get the more important of these to fix their corrupt metadata files. However, you may still run into warnings: you should remove the repositories which are broken, and it is not a bug in Cydia that you see warnings.
Cydia is now a 64-bit Process
Cydia is now compiled for ARM64. While this offers Cydia very little direct advantages (and probably comes at a performance penalty), this avoids a misleading dialog box from Apple and also happened to work around an iss on iOS 10 where no links in Cydia could be clicked. Note that this means that any extensions installed to modify Cydia will now need to be recompiled for 64-bit as well.
Support for iOS 10
There are at least a handful of users using iOS 10 due to the new Yalu jailbreak: this version of Cydia has a couple minor modifications to make this work better for them. For those worried about Cydia on older systems: the vast majority of users are using iOS 7, 8, and 9 (in nearly equal percentages), and Cydia continues to support even older versions of iOS, so do not feel concerned about updating (I still haven't updated from my iOS 8.4 primary phone ;P).
Some Random Bug Fixes
iAdam1n reported an issue where removing a repository could cause Cydia to not provide a UI to return to the previous screen. Find Extensions for Applications was broken for a few releases, but has now been fixed. Due to the new Yalu jailbreak shipping with SSH, some long-standing "right after jailbreak" bugs were able to be understood and fixed, making Cydia less likely to fail right after installation.
I’m pretty sure coolstar was the one who released this. People are afraid coolstar would gimp Cydia so we move over to his new installer.
