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Not to mention that I believe every provider DOES offer subsidy-free phones. Not only is the iPhone not subsidized, even if it was the wording of the legislation doesn't say that ALL phones offered by a carrier be available subsidy-free, just that there are subsidy-free phones of some sort.
 
I removed the quote that I put in the original post since it only captured a small part of what is in the bill. The article goes into detail why it does apply to the iPhone.
 
Here the quote I should have posted:

Right now, signing up for iPhone service is a two-year commitment on top of the price of the gadget itself. But, assuming that AT&T subsidizes at least some of the cost of the phone--one estimate says the subsidy is around $400--Markey's bill would apparently force AT&T to sell it at an unsubsidized price and for a contract length of the customer's choosing.
 
Here the quote I should have posted:
Right now, signing up for iPhone service is a two-year commitment on top of the price of the gadget itself. But, assuming that AT&T subsidizes at least some of the cost of the phone--one estimate says the subsidy is around $400--Markey's bill would apparently force AT&T to sell it at an unsubsidized price and for a contract length of the customer's choosing.

But if it didn't force Apple to sell it unsubsidized, then it wouldn't achieve anything more than move sales from an AT&T store to the Apple store.
 
So an unlocked, unsubsidized iPhone would sell for $799 or $899?

its unsubsidized. seriously as far as anyone knows and by all that has been said, this is the truth.

if they were forced to unlock it, they might raise the price to make up for their other source of income, and thats from sharing the profits of the monthly bill with att. i would imagine that if the phone could no longer be tied to att, att would then back out of the profit sharing, and thus apple would raise the price to make up for it.
 
The unsubsidised iPhone they sold in Germany for a short period was around $1500.00. If they were forced to do that here I don't think it would change anything people would still buy a contract phone and unlock it.
 
But here is the real catch. I believe that the Att contract with Apple states that they will only make a CDMA (ATT and TMobile) version of the iPhone for 5 years...they can't make a GSM (Verizon) version. Soooo even if it were unlocked they wouldn't be able to use it on Verizon, only Tmobile or ATT.
 
But here is the real catch. I believe that the Att contract with Apple states that they will only make a CDMA (ATT and TMobile) version of the iPhone for 5 years...they can't make a GSM (Verizon) version. Soooo even if it were unlocked they wouldn't be able to use it on Verizon, only Tmobile or ATT.

got your technologies backwards.

ATT and TMobile are GSM networks (and most of the world for that matter)
Verizon is on CDMA.
 
I read the link. It says nothing about requiring unlocking. Unsubsidized is not the same as unlocked. All this bill would do:
1. Require the carriers to sell unsubsidized phones
2. Offer contracts without early termination fees.

IMHO this bill will never see the light of day because the carriers already offer unsubsidized phones and prepaid or pay-as-you-go plans satisfy #2.

This is just a politician wasting taxpayer money.

I am all for a bill requiring unlocked phones, but this is not it.
 
its unsubsidized. seriously as far as anyone knows and by all that has been said, this is the truth.

Just to play devils advocate....

That 20 clams a month that ATT pays Apple a month. You CAN look at that as de facto subsidy... I mean, ATT does not do it just becaue they are nice guys... and the iPhone is the only thing they have in common.
 
I'm just glad the Democrats are working on the important things.

The democrats had to. The republicans were too busy grilling Roger Clemens :p. But seriously, I think this is a good thing. It really is completely wrong for us to have to sign a contract and be stuck with ATT if we aren't actually getting a break on the price of the phone.
 
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