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VerizonLover

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Apr 16, 2012
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Is Apple determined to kill 3rd-party utilities? Looking at this, it says:

  • Backup, Restore and Copy operations are not available for APFS volumes (including system volumes used by macOS 10.14 Mojave and newer versions).
  • Recovery Media can only be created in macOS 10.15 Catalina and previous macOS/OS X versions.
  • Resizing Microsoft exFAT partitions is not allowed due to the Microsoft exFAT licensing issues.
Even worse, according to this article, 10.15 support has ended.

Paragon's replacement hasn't been updated since February of 2020. :mad:

For similar problems, look at Micromat or Alsoft. Both seem to have gone silent. I have emailed them both, with no response.

It's not Paragon's fault. It's Apple fault for being such dicks (and hence inflexible) by basing macOS on the same universal code base as iOS and iPadOS, but limiting flexibility.

Their user-mode "system extension" framework is less flexibile than the kext framework that preceded it.

I have a feeling the engineers at Apple are being overruled my middle and upper management. 🤢

I want my old Apple back, 10.0-10.10 era.... 🤮
 

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Can’t really see how this is Apple’s fault if the software developer does not update their software. Carbon Clone Copier supports Intel and Apple Silicon native devices as well as support for Ventura. Apple supports prior versions of Mac OS for a reasonable amount of time, it is unreasonable to expect Apple to keep it updated forever.

While I understand that some people may have software that they like using and may not be capable of running on more recent versions of Mac OS, if Apple did not keep pushing forward with software and hardware development then they will suffer the same fate as Nokia and Blackberry.
 
Can’t really see how this is Apple’s fault if the software developer does not update their software. Carbon Clone Copier supports Intel and Apple Silicon native devices as well as support for Ventura. Apple supports prior versions of Mac OS for a reasonable amount of time, it is unreasonable to expect Apple to keep it updated forever.

While I understand that some people may have software that they like using and may not be capable of running on more recent versions of Mac OS, if Apple did not keep pushing forward with software and hardware development then they will suffer the same fate as Nokia and Blackberry.
The problem is that Apple has made those features nearly impossible to implement in newer macOS releases.

Heck, currently suck on Monterey because Apple has not yet fixed an external video bug that affects monitored via DisplayPort with a dock connected.

I'm sure Micromat, Paragon, and Alsoft have tried their best, to no avail...

I remember at one point when Micromat posted a plea on their website (and appealed directly to Apple) about what they wanted to implement (even going so far as to sign an NDA) with little to show for it.

Specifically, they wanted raw access to issue ATA commands to the hard drive.

In Micromat's case it was just online APFS filesystem repair that resulted from this...
 
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I can't comment on the software that you refer to as I don't use them. CCC is probably the best backup software on the market for the Mac, and they have found a way to get their software to work. I am not saying that Micromat, Paragon, and Alsoft have not been following Apple's software development guidelines as I don't know the specifics, but developers that have stuck with deprecated tools and API's will eventually run into problems.

There are probably two sides to this story, but as other developers of similar software clearly don't that the same problem.
 
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