Did you purchase your 2018 MacBook Pro for something else other than benchmarks?

[Mr. Dee]

Honestly, thats all I seem to reading about these days since Dave Lee posted his video.

Yes, Dave found an issue which proved useful in budging Apple in releasing a fix.

But beyond the benchmarks, what are you using it for?

I hope its not for:
compensating for boredom with your significant other.
Christmas in July.
I just want to feel like I belong.
I need a way to get rid of this powerball money
Adding to my existing collection.

Lets remember, a trillion dollar engineering company in Cupertino is likely using these.
A billion dollar company named Microsoft is also using them to make Mac Office.
Adobe is also using Mac hardware and is making money out of it.

So, I think maybe its time you delete the Intel Power gadget app, Cinebench and just maybe, use it?

Thanks.

 

[afir93]

So, I think maybe its time you delete the Intel Power gadget app, Cinebench and just maybe, use it?

That's what I'm doing! I'm still discovering some Touch Bar new features every other day, for example that the color picker button of the Touch Bar has a quick mode similar to the volume and brightness control where you can just hold down your finger and drag it to the color you want.

I've been happily using mine since I got it 1.5 weeks ago. Will mostly use it for university and studying, but also quite a bit for free time. Performance is honestly really fine for me, probably more than I'm gonna need (though I understand the disappointment many people have with this). In any case I'm very content I waited for the 2018 models and didn't pull the trigger earlier.

Have had zero issues with mine so far (well... expect the aggressive auto-dimming for the Touch Bar after 60 seconds which I wish I could turn off... and the fact that I can't use "Hey Siri" with it as my HomePods will always catch that request instead... but these are more "It's not a bug, it's a feature"-kinda issues).

 

[Aea]

Just looking at https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/.

The word "power" is mentioned 12 times.
The word "performance" is mentioned 58 times.
The word "productive" is mentioned 42 times.

There are two separate sections showing "benchmarks" (i.e. performance comparisons between this machine and others).

Is it wrong to expect the advertised power, performance and productivity on these machines?

- i9 Owner

 

[Newtons Apple]

I bought my 2018 15” SG i7 2.6 16/512 and have not run the first test on it.

Liking very much.

 

[stevemiller]

in fairness a lot of them are running actual workflow tests encoding videos (which is the "productive" thing most video producers do). I for one am glad that people are posting the results of their stress tests, because I do push my hardware to its limits in 3d apps, unity, and ue4 for work, and I'm interested to know the potential benefits/drawbacks of the various configurations to my workflows.

 

[CreeptoLoser]

I agree. Delete Cinebench from your lives. It is old, OpenGL is almost abandoned, and it is silly to run it on a thin and light and expect high boost clocks.

Real world productive work that most people use MacBook Pro for is seeing great benefits. The increased speed has already almost paid for my upgrade.
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Just looking at https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/.

The word "power" is mentioned 12 times.
The word "performance" is mentioned 58 times.
The word "productive" is mentioned 42 times.

There are two separate sections showing "benchmarks" (i.e. performance comparisons between this machine and others).

Is it wrong to expect the advertised power, performance and productivity on these machines?

- i9 Owner

We must note to Apple’s credit that half the benchmarks they published are to show the benefit of using an egpu over a laptop’s gpu.

 

[Mr. Dee]

in fairness a lot of them are running actual workflow tests encoding videos (which is the "productive" thing most video producers do). I for one am glad that people are posting the results of their stress tests, because I do push my hardware to its limits in 3d apps, unity, and ue4 for work, and I'm interested to know the potential benefits/drawbacks of the various configurations to my workflows.

Is this Oscar/Emmy production level work or just 'Nene's & Papi's' June wedding? Trust me, if its Nene and Papi, they can wait.

 

[Aea]

Is this Oscar/Emmy production level work or just 'Nene's & Papi's' June wedding? Trust me, if its Nene and Papi, they can wait.

Is it just me or is this reply oozing with arrogance?

 

[Painter2002]

Just looking at https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/.

The word "power" is mentioned 12 times.
The word "performance" is mentioned 58 times.
The word "productive" is mentioned 42 times.

There are two separate sections showing "benchmarks" (i.e. performance comparisons between this machine and others).

Is it wrong to expect the advertised power, performance and productivity on these machines?

- i9 Owner

It is not wrong to expect that, but I think OP is pointing to the frustration that some of us others have where we don’t necessarily need to stress the every brand new MBP model to it’s limit, and the forums fill up with complaints from users who are only looking at their (sometimes excessive) benchmarking tools, instead of the real world use. Sure, I agree that there were users who legitimately need that power, and rightfully should complain/make their voices heard about the incorrect performance, but it can be annoying when nearly every thread, nearly every comment has to be related or a derogatory statement about not being able to use the machine as advertised. Most people never will use their machine to that full potential power.

I’m not saying that people complaining shouldn’t, and I am glad that they do, because it helps get the word out and Apple will address there issue, but once it’s fixed it would be nice to see people move on off the topic and see fresh content on the forums, where we could help give advice or hear other issues that might need addressing. Too many people get hung up on past issues.

 

[Quackington]

Is this Oscar/Emmy production level work or just 'Nene's & Papi's' June wedding? Trust me, if its Nene and Papi, they can wait.

Nene and Papi might be extremely demanding though.

 

[jerryk]

Nene and Papi might be extremely demanding though.

And most importantly, are paying your bills.

 

[CreeptoLoser]

Is it just me or is this reply oozing with arrogance?

He’s being sarcastic but if you went to a decent production company and said you were rendering finals of some serious project work on a laptop you will get smirked at. They will use workstations, even older ones, until the next Mac Pro arrives.

 

[Ma2k5]

Is this Oscar/Emmy production level work or just 'Nene's & Papi's' June wedding? Trust me, if its Nene and Papi, they can wait.

It’s like I said before, if you buy a car which is advertised to go 200mph but can only go 150mph, even though you Mr Dee may never even go past 100mph, you will question why you paid money for all those expensive components capable of going 200mph but can’t as they made the chassis too heavy.

NB: This isn’t a whine on the new MacBooks , more on the theory behind OP’s argument.

 

[Mr. Dee]

Is it just me or is this reply oozing with arrogance?

Sorry, your cat videos are very important to humanity.

Nene and Papi might be extremely demanding though.

They are on honeymoon in Maui.

 

[stevemiller]

Is this Oscar/Emmy production level work or just 'Nene's & Papi's' June wedding? Trust me, if its Nene and Papi, they can wait.

funny you should say that...

but I'm not one to trot out my "credentials" to tell people whether their use of time, scale of project, or choices of tools are valid.

 

[Mr. Dee]

funny you should say that...

but I'm not one to trot out my "credentials" to tell people whether their use of time, scale of project, or choices of tools are valid.

Spielberg requires a desktop workstation and Warner Brothers doesn't want you going off the lot with unfinished edits on a laptop. Now go to editing bay, start the Dell Precision Workstation, open Avid and finish your work. The family reunion video from Utah will finish render on MBP i9 for publish to YouTube tonight.

 

[Eason85]

MacBook customers really do seem to be special these days.

 

[theISHkid]

I think the one thing more irritating to me than all the benchmarks are the couple of people in these forums that want to tell everyone how they are using their machines wrong or that they aren’t pros if they are using MacBooks instead of desktops.
I work for a live event production company and I oversee about 15 different macs. Everything from 12 core Mac pros, iMacs, and MacBook pros that we take on the road. Sure the MacBooks aren’t as fast at rendering as my 12 core Mac Pros are. But some of these new MacBooks are starting to get just as fast as some of the older Mac pros and iMacs we use. I’ve used these MacBooks for rendering in the office and the road. By themselves or setting up as a team render in Cinema. No it’s not my primary, but when I have 75 files to render I’ll let my pro handle 40 of them and split the others on a couple of MacBooks. You use what you have around you to get the job done.
These machines are very capable. And if Nana and Poppies wedding brings someone a few thousand dollars this week then it’s nothing to shake your nose at. Many people do different kinds of things for work. Professionals that are on the move or don’t have an office. And you’re right, If you’re rendering every single day you’re probably going to have a desktop, but even the people who only render once a month might still want a machine that takes less time to render.

 

[AZhappyjack]

I bought it because I needed a tool to get some work done. When buying, I get the newest and the best, spec-wise that I can reasonably justify. I can honestly say that I have never run a benchmark utility on any computer or phone or tablet that I have ever owned. I don't care what the benchmark scores are because to me, they are meaningless. I needed a new computer, and I bought the 2018 MBP (13" QC i5), and I am happily being productive with it.

 

[2IS]

I'll bet nobody bought one to have a stranger on the internet tell them how they should be using it.

Why do you care how other people use their machines?

 

[maflynn]

But beyond the benchmarks, what are you using it for?

What ever they want, its their computer and if they want to run benchmarks for 24 hours straight, and talk about the findings here, they certainly can. It's their computer.

The benchmarks are important on a number of levels, first it helps gauge whether the new laptop is an improvement over a prior generation, or a competitor's laptop and in the case of throttling, it helped identify for us consumers whether the laptop was functioning. I'm actually liking the Power Gadget, its a useful little app. Why should I delete it, if I'm getting value out of it.

If you don't want to see any more discussions of power, heat, throttling, then skip the thread that is talking about it. Its on people's minds and it concerns them.

I hope its not for:

Why does someone's decision to buy a laptop matter to you? If they wanted it for Christmas in July, its their money

So, I think maybe its time you delete the Intel Power gadget app, Cinebench and just maybe, use it?

I am using it, and it just so happens to include Intel Power Gadget and an occasional Cinebench.

 

[Lennyvalentin]

He’s being sarcastic but if you went to a decent production company and said you were rendering finals of some serious project work on a laptop you will get smirked at.

Real, actual pros have the brains to understand that every tool has its uses; if they need another system to do work on they're not going to ignore it just because it is a laptop, and if they need to go on the move they're not going to bring 12 car batteries and an inverter along with them to power that Mac Pro workstation and its standalone monitor...

 

[Glockworkorange]

Honestly, thats all I seem to reading about these days since Dave Lee posted his video.

Yes, Dave found an issue which proved useful in budging Apple in releasing a fix.

But beyond the benchmarks, what are you using it for?

I hope its not for:
compensating for boredom with your significant other.
Christmas in July.
I just want to feel like I belong.
I need a way to get rid of this powerball money
Adding to my existing collection.

Lets remember, a trillion dollar engineering company in Cupertino is likely using these.
A billion dollar company named Microsoft is also using them to make Mac Office.
Adobe is also using Mac hardware and is making money out of it.

So, I think maybe its time you delete the Intel Power gadget app, Cinebench and just maybe, use it?

Thanks.

Most of the people on this forum are, I suspect, hobbyists and fans. Benchmarks and whining are part of fandom. At the end of the day, most of us just go back to using and enjoying our products.

 

[Mortis360]

I've not done a single benchmark on my 2018 MBP 15" since I got delivered just over a week ago.

What my main use is?
Normal daily use, like documents, browsing, music.
Community management on Discord and twitch.
Editing and processing photos and some smaller video clips.

I prefer macOS over Windows for my daily use, it gives me less to think about and I can spend more energy on what I enjoy doing.

 

[Mr. Dee]

What ever they want, its their computer and if they want to run benchmarks for 24 hours straight, and talk about the findings here, they certainly can. It's their computer.

The benchmarks are important on a number of levels, first it helps gauge whether the new laptop is an improvement over a prior generation, or a competitor's laptop and in the case of throttling, it helped identify for us consumers whether the laptop was functioning. I'm actually liking the Power Gadget, its a useful little app. Why should I delete it, if I'm getting value out of it.

If you don't want to see any more discussions of power, heat, throttling, then skip the thread that is talking about it. Its on people's minds and it concerns them.


Why does someone's decision to buy a laptop matter to you? If they wanted it for Christmas in July, its their money


I am using it, and it just so happens to include Intel Power Gadget and an occasional Cinebench.

Well, benchmarks wo

I've not done a single benchmark on my 2018 MBP 15" since I got delivered just over a week ago.

What my main use is?
Normal daily use, like documents, browsing, music.
Community management on Discord and twitch.
Editing and processing photos and some smaller video clips.

I prefer macOS over Windows for my daily use, it gives me less to think about and I can spend more energy on what I enjoy doing.

Wow, you use your MacBook Pro!