Difficulty moving pdf files from 1.42 Ghz PPC iBook G4 to 19,1 iMac.

[blackxacto]

1.42 Ghz PPC G4, MacOSX 10.5.8, 1GB HD
19,1 iMac, Monterey 2TBHD

1. I tried formatting a 8GB Thumbdrive into 4-2GB partitions
Then tried formatting into a .5GB Partition and a 7.5GB partition.
Every time I tried to move 8 small pdfs from the iBook to any of the macOS extended journaled partitions on the thumb drive, the iBook says there is no room. Why?

I had success burning a CD w the pdfs and moving them to my iMac.

2. I have all sharing turned ON on both iMac and iBook. Plugged usb to usb into both devices. But never saw the iBook. Why?

Guess I have forgotten how to use OSX 10.5.8

 

[dwig]

Try reformatting the thumbdrive as FAT.

 

[DeltaMac]

You said the pdfs are small... How large are they?
You also said 8 files. Does it work if you try one at a time to the USB?
What exactly is the error message that you get about "no room"

USB doesn't particularly work for file sharing (between computers)
Connect both the G4 and the iMac to the same network (ethernet would be better than wifi, but either should be OK)

 

[blackxacto]

Try reformatting the thumbdrive as FAT.

I try to move a 444 MB folder of pdfs. I get the same message when I formatted a blank 8GB thumb drive as MacOS Extended Journal, AND as FAT: "This item 'new stuff' cannot be copied because there is not enough free space".

 

[eyoungren]

Try reformatting the thumb drive as a single partition (FAT32). Why were you trying to make 4 partitions? 10.5.8 will easily see an 8GB drive. I used a 4TB HD on my Quad for years.

Also, I have to assume for the G4, you meant 1TB HD.

 

[blackxacto]

Because one partition told me the exact message: no room [8gb blank thumbdrive]

 

[DeltaMac]

How about trying a different reformat of that thumb drive?:
(Do this on the iBook & Leopard.)
Disk Utility, select the maker's model line for your thumb drive.
Choose Volume Scheme, then "1 Partition" from the drop down.
Click the Options button, and change the Partition Scheme to Apple Partition Map, then click OK.
Format should already be set for Mac OS Extended (journaled)
Name the partition if you like, then click the Apply button.
NOW, try the copy. If you still can't copy that folder - try copying one file at a time (there's only 8 files?)

 

[weckart]

This is very odd. I've never had a problem with thumbdrives with recent vintage Macs, which pretty much includes all the G4s. Also, the partition map only matters for booting. OS X will see and write to GUID, APM and MBR. HFS+ is fine as well for transferring between both computers.

I wonder if the drive is somehow write protected. How does the drive look in Disk Utility on the G4? If the volume is not writable, I would start from there.

Alternatively, try turning on hidden files and folders. I wonder if there is a hidden file or folder in your PDFs folder, which takes the visible files of 444MB over the 8GB limit.

 

[dwig]

Two things to try:

• Make sure that there is well over 8Gb free on the PPC's HD and empty the Trash.
• Copy the files in small batches

 

[blackxacto]

On the G4, again I erased the thumb drive and formatted extended journaled, and later MS-DOS (FAT), always "No Free Space"

Trash emptied

Tried to copy one 385mb pdf, no joy.

So I burned a CD on the G4 with the pdf file. Opened the CD on my Monterey iMac, inserted the same thumb drive. Copied the pdf to the thumb drive in Monterey. I don't understand because I have always used any thumb drive transfer method between the G4 and iMac.

I worked on the G4 all afternoon yesterday, it functions great, but not copying to the thumb drive.

 

[Dronecatcher]

On the G4, again I erased the thumb drive and formatted extended journaled, and later MS-DOS (FAT), always "No Free Space"

Trash emptied

Tried to copy one 385mb pdf, no joy.

So I burned a CD on the G4 with the pdf file. Opened the CD on my Monterey iMac, inserted the same thumb drive. Copied the pdf to the thumb drive in Monterey. I don't understand because I have always used any thumb drive transfer method between the G4 and iMac.

I worked on the G4 all afternoon yesterday, it functions great, but not copying to the thumb drive.

It's not this problem again?

#15

 

[DeltaMac]

...
(Do this on the iBook & Leopard.)
Disk Utility, select the maker's model line for your thumb drive.
Choose Volume Scheme, then "1 Partition" from the drop down.
Click the Options button, and change the Partition Scheme to Apple Partition Map, then click OK.
Format should already be set for Mac OS Extended (journaled)
...

Did you also verify that the Partition Scheme is set to Apple Partition Map (and NOT Master Boot Record (MBR)?

 

[blackxacto]

Did you also verify that the Partition Scheme is set to Apple Partition Map (and NOT Master Boot Record (MBR)?

I do not see any settings you are referring. I only have one partition formatted as Mac OS Extended (journaled). I see nothing of the terms you speak of. What option?

 

[blackxacto]

I purchased a new 16GB thumb drive. I get the same "No free space" error on it when I format Extended Journaled/one partition, when I insert and try to copy to it on the G4. I inserted the new thumb drive into the iMac and I can copy any file to it.

 

[DeltaMac]

I do not see any settings you are referring. I only have one partition formatted as Mac OS Extended (journaled). I see nothing of the terms you speak of. What option?

If you go through all the steps in my post #7, using your Leopard Disk Utility on the iBook, you will see the Options button in the Disk Utility/Partitions tab.
If you also try preparing the thumb drive on the newer Mac, (again, trying to format as another choice, other than using Master Boot Record (MBR)

 

[blackxacto]

If you go through all the steps in my post #7, using your Leopard Disk Utility on the iBook, you will see the Options button in the Disk Utility/Partitions tab.
If you also try preparing the thumb drive on the newer Mac, (again, trying to format as another choice, other than using Master Boot Record (MBR)

Please provide a screenshot or a screen video of your process, because you use terminology that is exactly what i did.

 

[ADunsmuir]

Please provide a screenshot or a screen video of your process, because you use terminology that is exactly what i did.

I thought Apple Partition Map was limited io 4TB volumes.

GUID should support volumes >4TB for data, but would only be bootable on some late-2005 Macs.

[Never mind… not enough sleep. My eyes saw GB in previous post, and my mind flashed TB.]

 

[blackxacto]

If you go through all the steps in my post #7, using your Leopard Disk Utility on the iBook, you will see the Options button in the Disk Utility/Partitions tab.
If you also try preparing the thumb drive on the newer Mac, (again, trying to format as another choice, other than using Master Boot Record (MBR)

Nevermind about the screenshots or vid. I see where you are telling me about APM. I'll check and get back

 

[blackxacto]

From G4 Leopard Disk Utility, chose the 16GB stick Manufactures name listed. Chose Partition/Options/Apple Partition Map. Chose 1 partition. Name stick. Apply. Chose Erase, Volume Format/Mac OS Extended Journaled/Erase.

Drug one 28MGB pdf onto the stick: "No free space available"

What the heck is causing this inability to copy across disks on my iBook G4? The G4 responds w applications fine.

 

[DeltaMac]

I suspect some problem with the system, some corruption of some kind with the disk drivers, or some other part of the operating system.
I would boot your iBook to a Leopard installer disk, install Leopard using the option to Archive & Install.
(I keep a bootable Leopard install on an SSD, in a Firewire enclosure, just for this kind of task)
The reinstalled system will have some updates to download and install. The Leopard 10.5.8 combo updater is one major one that I keep on the same SSD.
I would then try the file copy to the flash drive on that reinstalled Leopard system.

 

[blackxacto]

SOLVED: I had re-installed OSX 10.5.8 by booting from the Leopard installer CD choosing Archive and installing a replacement system folder. I had formatted the thumb drive as required even directing to pick up Apple Partition Map (I'm not sure it was needed). But I had not finished updating Leopard by connecting to internet and updating the system folder files. (whatever they were) Then following the UPDATED 10.5.8, the stick accepted all files. No more "no free space available". Thanks everyone for your input. I forgot that w older PPC software, the system was not complete until I UPDATED from the internet.

 

[Project Alice]

This thread makes me wonder.. Before you reinstalled; was the date and time correct on the iBook? I've noticed if the date is set back to 1904 or whenever because the battery dies, you can't write any files to anything. In fact if you "get info" on your boot disk it'll have two dashes "--" where the capacity and available space should be listed.
This problem used to make me bang my head against the wall until I figured out it was the date. Best thing to do is just go to date and time, and set it to immediately pull from the time server.

10.5.x will work with any FAT32 flashdrive no problem. So updating had nothing to do with it I assure you. You either had a corrupted installation, or it was the annoying time bug I described above.

 

[Dronecatcher]

This thread makes me wonder.. Before you reinstalled; was the date and time correct on the iBook? I've noticed if the date is set back to 1904 or whenever because the battery dies, you can't write any files to anything. In fact if you "get info" on your boot disk it'll have two dashes "--" where the capacity and available space should be listed.
This problem used to make me bang my head against the wall until I figured out it was the date. Best thing to do is just go to date and time, and set it to immediately pull from the time server.

10.5.x will work with any FAT32 flashdrive no problem. So updating had nothing to do with it I assure you. You either had a corrupted installation, or it was the annoying time bug I described above.

That's what I referenced in post #11 - the OP has had this problem before

 

[blackxacto]

This thread makes me wonder.. Before you reinstalled; was the date and time correct on the iBook? I've noticed if the date is set back to 1904 or whenever because the battery dies, you can't write any files to anything. In fact if you "get info" on your boot disk it'll have two dashes "--" where the capacity and available space should be listed.
This problem used to make me bang my head against the wall until I figured out it was the date. Best thing to do is just go to date and time, and set it to immediately pull from the time server.

10.5.x will work with any FAT32 flashdrive no problem. So updating had nothing to do with it I assure you. You either had a corrupted installation, or it was the annoying time bug I described above.

Thank you. The time was always lost closing the iBook so i just stopped updating the time. It may have been that earlier, but reinstalling/archiving, then updating made it work later. I’ll have to remember to update clock if it begins to stop working again. Thanks