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someone here said you can't upgrade MBP graphics as it is a chip on the MB like the MacBook has - is this true? I thought the 8600MGT was a card :s

thanks
 
someone here said you can't upgrade MBP graphics as it is a chip on the MB like the MacBook has - is this true? I thought the 8600MGT was a card :s

thanks

The macbook doesn't have a dedicated graphics chip: it's integrated into the Intel chipset and uses System RAM giving poor graphics performance. The MacBook Pro has a 8600 GT Mobile with dedicated graphics RAM. This is surface mounted on the Logic board. This is the same chip that could be on a card, but it's not. It gives much better performance that the MacBook but cannot be upgraded.
 
so like what games could a MBP run on High settings with a bit of AA? isn;t the 8600 a bit old?
 
The 8600GT was recently replaced by the 9600GT, but its still a good card.

Will Run Half Life 2 at full
 
The 8600GT was recently replaced by the 9600GT, but its still a good card.

So the 8800GT should be replaced by the 9800GT by the same token?

I wonder how futureproof the graphics are, i mean it should still run the latest games at playable res/frame rates 2/3 years down the line?
 
So the 8800GT should be replaced by the 9800GT by the same token?

I wonder how futureproof the graphics are, i mean it should still run the latest games at playable res/frame rates 2/3 years down the line?
Its really going to come down to how picky you are about quality. If you took a first revision MacBook Pro 1.83/2ghz and put it up against UT3, I'm thinking it could play it.. but probably at 800x600 with everything set very low.
 
Huh?

Funny, if it's been replaced as you've cited.
How come the Apple site still enlist the 8600M GT chip on it's MBP specs?

Did Apple forget to update their site? Or is someone telling porkies? :rolleyes:

Slow down a bit - I think he just meant it's the 8600's *general* successor, not that it's in Apple hardware already.
 
Huh?

Funny, if it's been replaced as you've cited.
How come the Apple site still enlist the 8600M GT chip on it's MBP specs?

Did Apple forget to update their site? Or is someone telling porkies? :rolleyes:

Unlike CPU's, GPU's will often have 2 or 3 family's being made at once, so the 8600GT is still being made.

Im hoping the next MBP update (WWDC Please Steve!) Will bring the 9600GT, which is almost as powerful as an 8800GT
 
So the 8800GT should be replaced by the 9800GT by the same token?

I wonder how futureproof the graphics are, i mean it should still run the latest games at playable res/frame rates 2/3 years down the line?

In case you can't figure out, NO CURRENT LAPTOPS would be able to play games 3 years from now, at full resolution and full settings.

For example, very few desktops can even play Crysis with everything turned on.
 
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i mean it should still run the latest games at playable res/frame rates 2/3 years down the line?


I highly doubt it can run games 2/3 years from now at good res... considering that Crysis came out a month after my MBP purchase, and it doesn't run acceptable at all. And I don't blame my MBP.
 
So the 8800GT should be replaced by the 9800GT by the same token?

I wonder how futureproof the graphics are, i mean it should still run the latest games at playable res/frame rates 2/3 years down the line?

2 years down the road? I doubt it.

It will play current games (HL2/CoD4) on medium quality and get good fps. Anything past that and you would need a desktop
 
someone here said you can't upgrade MBP graphics as it is a chip on the MB like the MacBook has - is this true? I thought the 8600MGT was a card :s

thanks

The GPU is soldered on the logic board, so unless you can desolder it, you won't be able to upgrade it. The MB graphics is called integrated because it's physically integrated in the Northbridge.

As with graphics, 2/3 years down the line you won't be able to play them; just test the graphics card with 3DMark 06; it's pretty much a graphics in 2/3 years later kind of test; the SLI/Crossfire 9800GTs get barely playable frame rates, so don't expect so much from the 8600GT.

The 8600GT was recently replaced by the 9600GT, but its still a good card.

On the MBP it's still the 8600GT.

9900 GT, but yes, basically.

Sorry, still the 9800
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce9.html

Is that going to be a single slot card like the 8800gt?

On the desktop the 8800GT is dual slot. Laptop with 8800M GTs are like 5-inches thick and weight 20 pounds.
 
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