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I am going to buy this over the new t/ntMBP, I am looking for reassurance. Tell me is it still fast or is it showing age with newer software?

Any one runs parallels? How good does it handle Windows 10?

How long do you think this laptop will be sufficient for you until you need to upgrade again?

I did it a lot of research and read about benchmarks and it seems the newer one is only faster by 10-20% max depending on which specific CPU you compare.

Intel with their retarded branding makes this very confusing to figure on your own.
 
I am going to buy this over the new t/ntMBP, I am looking for reassurance. Tell me is it still fast or is it showing age with newer software?

Any one runs parallels? How good does it handle Windows 10?

How long do you think this laptop will be sufficient for you until you need to upgrade again?

I did it a lot of research and read about benchmarks and it seems the newer one is only faster by 10-20% max depending on which specific CPU you compare.

Intel with their retarded branding makes this very confusing to figure on your own.

I have the base model 13" and I love it. I've had it for almost a year. I foresee myself keeping it for 2 more years. I'm hoping that Apple will introduce a touchscreen by then, but if they don't, I'll likely move back to a PC, though I'd hate that. I do regret upgrading to Sierra. My battery life was 11 hours and now I'm getting between 8-9. I would suggest staying on El Capitan, honestly.

I run VMware Fusion and have no problems at all with it. I use it for basic word processing, though. I've read that Parallels uses more resources so I stayed away from that one.

If the price was right, I would have upgraded to the newest non-touch bar model simply for the weight decrease, but I can't justify the extra $500. Good luck with your purchase.
 
I've got the 13" 2015 MBP, and it's good. I use parallels occasionally, and it's worked fine with Win 7, Win 8, and Win 10 (though I haven't used that much). I was even playing Skyrim in Parallels.
 
I run VMware Fusion and have no problems at all with it. I use it for basic word processing, though. I've read that Parallels uses more resources so I stayed away from that one.

If the price was right, I would have upgraded to the newest non-touch bar model simply for the weight decrease, but I can't justify the extra $500. Good luck with your purchase.

-I thought Parallels was the more powerful, better working one no VMware Fusion?

-Do you feel the laptop is heavy? I didn't hold one myself, but my 2008 Unibody is okay, if its half as thin I would consider it very light.

I've got the 13" 2015 MBP, and it's good. I use parallels occasionally, and it's worked fine with Win 7, Win 8, and Win 10 (though I haven't used that much). I was even playing Skyrim in Parallels.

-You can play Skyrim n Parallels? I thought this thing will not be able to run Skyrim in the first place. Tell me more, does it run well or in slow motion? How much RAM do you have?
 
I am going to buy this over the new t/ntMBP, I am looking for reassurance. Tell me is it still fast or is it showing age with newer software?

Any one runs parallels? How good does it handle Windows 10?

How long do you think this laptop will be sufficient for you until you need to upgrade again?

I did it a lot of research and read about benchmarks and it seems the newer one is only faster by 10-20% max depending on which specific CPU you compare.

Intel with their retarded branding makes this very confusing to figure on your own.

Of course it's fast!! I have had a 2013 for 3 years it's still blazing fast with a great battery life. I really want a 2016 one but have no reason to upgrade mine is still brilliant. CPU's ssd's are much the same and have been for a few years that's where most of your speed comes from.

Of course there are real benefits to the 2016 brighter better screen, USB c and TB3 thinner lighter etc. To be honest though if I was you I'd get the non touch bar 2016, it's faster than the 2015 has better graphics is thinner and lighter and with the SSD size set to 256gb the same on each there is only $50 ish in it price wise.
 
-You can play Skyrim n Parallels? I thought this thing will not be able to run Skyrim in the first place. Tell me more, does it run well or in slow motion? How much RAM do you have?

Skyrim came out in 2011, so you could be surprised at what it will run on. (The new special edition is definitely tailored to better graphics cards, I didn't try it.)

I ran it on fairly low resolution and detail settings, without any ENBs. It was perfectly playable, and only in a couple places with fog effects did it start getting slow-mo. Otherwise the worst I saw was a bit of low framerate in some cities. I completed the main quest, the DLCs, and most side quests before stopping (nothing left to spend money on).

I have 16GB of ram, and I think I put 8GB to Parallels.
 
Of course it's fast!! I have had a 2013 for 3 years it's still blazing fast with a great battery life. I really want a 2016 one but have no reason to upgrade mine is still brilliant. CPU's ssd's are much the same and have been for a few years that's where most of your speed comes from.

Of course there are real benefits to the 2016 brighter better screen, USB c and TB3 thinner lighter etc. To be honest though if I was you I'd get the non touch bar 2016, it's faster than the 2015 has better graphics is thinner and lighter and with the SSD size set to 256gb the same on each there is only $50 ish in it price wise.

the 2.0GHz non-tMBP is faster than the 2.7GHz '15 MBP? How is that even possible?

Update: Hmmm... things are even getting more confusing, at 512GB, both the old and new computer costs the same...$1700 on Apple.com
 
the 2.0GHz non-tMBP is faster than the 2.7GHz '15 MBP? How is that even possible?

Update: Hmmm... things are even getting more confusing, at 512GB, both the old and new computer costs the same...$1700 on Apple.com

Well as your title says you are looking at the 13 inch not the 15 inch that's what I assumed this thread was about!!!
 
Sorry, there are a lot of numbers, I did mean the 2.7GHz 13inch 2015 model

That's cool yes the 2.0 ghz skylake 15watt in the non touch bar 2016 MBP benches faster than the 2.7ghz broadwell in the 2015 MBP.

Geekbench scores
2.7ghz 2015
Single core = 3475
Multi core = 6543.

2.0 ghz 2016
Single core = 3604
Multi core = 7004


It's possible because architecture changes are more important than clock speeds in many cases and they have been for a while!!
 
Hey guys,

I purchased a 2016- 13" non touch bar MBP, but I'm sending it back as it's only getting around 7-8 hours battery life just surfing the web, Numbers spreadsheets, and watching short video's on Facebook and Youtube.

I really like the 2016-13", it's so light, the screen is awesome, and the key pad is good. I thought I'd hate the larger trackpad, but Apple got that right too.

As for price, there really isn't much of a difference, the cost through the Apple EPP or EDU program is:
2016-13" nTB, 2.0/16/512= $1,809
2012-13", 2.7/16/512= $1,739

So, before I send this 2016 back, I'd like to know what kind of battery life you are getting on your 2015- 13" MBP running the latest 10.12.1

Thank you
 
After weighing the pros and cons of buying a 2015 or a 2016 MacBook Pro 13", I ended up buying the 2015 model.

I found one for an excellent price and am satisfied with the purchase...
 
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Hey guys,

I purchased a 2016- 13" non touch bar MBP, but I'm sending it back as it's only getting around 7-8 hours battery life just surfing the web, Numbers spreadsheets, and watching short video's on Facebook and Youtube.

I don't think you should, 7-8 hours seem plenty for a laptop. That should cover full flights without recharging once.

After weighing the pros and cons of buying a 2015 or a 2016 MacBook Pro 13", I ended up buying the 2015 model.

I found one for an excellent price and am satisfied with the purchase...

how much did you pay?
at 512GB, both are priced the same on apple.com
 
"how much did you pay?"

I bought the 8gb/256gb model from the seller "electronics valley" on ebay.
Paid $1,189, free shipping. That's a new one at the same price that Apple sells refurbished ones.

Apple's list for this is $1,499.
 
"how much did you pay?"

I bought the 8gb/256gb model from the seller "electronics valley" on ebay.
Paid $1,189, free shipping. That's a new one at the same price that Apple sells refurbished ones.

Apple's list for this is $1,499.

electronics valley is not coming up in eBay search
 
"how much did you pay?"

I bought the 8gb/256gb model from the seller "electronics valley" on ebay.
Paid $1,189, free shipping. That's a new one at the same price that Apple sells refurbished ones.

Apple's list for this is $1,499.

consider yourself lucky, I will pay $2000+ to get the 512GB, the sorage sizes are a joke. They sell smartphones with same size storage as macbooks.
 
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