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Do you think the new MBPr is significantly better than the late 2013 model?

Hieveryone

Hieveryone

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Is it worth the upgrade?

Mine is 2.6 GHz. This is 2.7.

Mine doesn't have the haptic feedback.

Is it worth these features and whatever else? My guess is no but I'd like further feedback.
 
Hieveryone said:
Is it worth the upgrade?

Mine is 2.6 GHz. This is 2.7.

Mine doesn't have the haptic feedback.

Is it worth these features and whatever else? My guess is no but I'd like further feedback.
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I swear I just read that they are comparable to the 2014 models.
 
I'm considering the exact same upgrade, but I'm leaning towards waiting for Skylake. Part of me wonders if they'll upgrade the 13" later this year again when those come out, but they'll have to do the 15" anyway, so I'm guessing they will. If not, I'll just get one of the ones that just came out, which at that point will hopefully be available in the refurb store.

The main thing for me actually is the faster flash storage. 1.6GB/s is ridiculously fast. The new trackpad looks pretty slick too.
 
If yours is 2 years old, probably not worth the minimum 1299 price - I don't have a Macbook yet so for me, now is the time. :) The CPU and GPU were both updated, the RAM had its speed increased, and the SSD is 2x as fast as the 2014 model per Apple.. one hell of a fast machine I'd say. Oh ya, and the force touchpad :) .. oh wait, plus another hour of battery,10 hours surfing, 12 hours itunes movie playback!
 
Computers always get better with every generation. There is nothing revolutionary in the new rmbps.
 
Hieveryone said:
Is it worth the upgrade?

Mine is 2.6 GHz. This is 2.7.

Mine doesn't have the haptic feedback.

Is it worth these features and whatever else? My guess is no but I'd like further feedback.
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If you had an late 2012/early 2013 I would say go for it. The difference between late 2013 and the latest model is not that big a deal unless you are a power user.
 
It's not enough better for me to consider upgrading yet. I also try to keep my laptops as long as possible. I upgraded to my late-2013 rMBP from a mid-2009 MBP that's still going as a home media server. I expect my late-2013 to keep going until at least late-2017.
 
solo118 said:
If you had an late 2012/early 2013 I would say go for it. The difference between late 2013 and the latest model is not that big a deal unless you are a power user.
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Can you tell me the difference between the late 2012 and early 2013 models vs mine?

Thanks
 
Hieveryone said:
Yes very helpful. Thanks. Do you know if there is any physical differences between late 2013 and 2015?

I read that the 2012 & early 2013 were actually thicker and heavier for the 13" model. I didn't know that!!
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2012 was slightly thicker. The 2015, as far as I know just has a new trackpad so physically from the exterior it would be the same as a late 2013 model.
 
This is great. So as long as you have a late 2013 or above, you basically have the same looking computer as the latest 2015 model.

The real differences are on the inside. And if all you do is surf the web, take notes, listen to music, watch YouTube, use pages, numbers, calendar, and calculator, you are grand.

I don't even use thunderbolt. I don't click on the trackpad, ever. And 2.6 GHz, 8 GB RAM, and 256 SDD storage is plenty for my use.

I also don't have a 4k display (yet :D) Although it won't be soon. I'm looking for when 4k becomes mainstream and content is all 4k.
 
yjchua95 said:
It is, but for Iris 6100.

Then you can finally drive 4K displays at 60 Hz.
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Yeah that's definitely nice. I don't have a 4k yet. I'll get one eventually though but when it is more mainstream and there is more content (hollywood movies shot in 4k, etc)
 
Hieveryone said:
Yeah that's definitely nice. I don't have a 4k yet. I'll get one eventually though but when it is more mainstream and there is more content (hollywood movies shot in 4k, etc)
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I already shoot in 4K in my cinematography job, but mainly just small segments (and a few ads) for now.

It'll go up in the future, when affordable 4K comes.
 
Hieveryone said:
Is it worth the upgrade?

Mine is 2.6 GHz. This is 2.7.

Mine doesn't have the haptic feedback.

Is it worth these features and whatever else? My guess is no but I'd like further feedback.
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Only if you need to drive 4K external, if not save your $$$$, performance increment is insignificant, the rest is just "bells & whistles" wait on Skylake at a minimum.

Q-6
 
Queen6 said:
Only if you need to drive 4K external, if not save your $$$$, performance increment is insignificant, the rest is just "bells & whistles" wait on Skylake at a minimum.

Q-6
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Sweet. Yeah that sounds great. I'm definitely going to wait at this point.

I promised myself awhile ago I'm using this MBPr for at least 5 years. Apple somehow always finds a way to convince me out of it.

Thankfully, there are smart people on this forum to help stop me from wasting money :apple:
 
Hieveryone said:
Can you tell me the difference between the late 2012 and early 2013 models vs mine?
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That had the old terribly underpowered HD4000 graphics that really wan't suited for a retina display. The Iris 5100 is a quantum leap from the 4000, the 6100 is just a minor bump.

I really want to see some eDRAM added before I'd consider upgrading - that little bit of eDRAM really does make a difference. Hopefully Skylake will bring Iris Pro down to the 13" rMBPs.
 
neteng101 said:
That had the old terribly underpowered HD4000 graphics that really wan't suited for a retina display. The Iris 5100 is a quantum leap from the 4000, the 6100 is just a minor bump.

I really want to see some eDRAM added before I'd consider upgrading - that little bit of eDRAM really does make a difference. Hopefully Skylake will bring Iris Pro down to the 13" rMBPs.
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Can you tell me what eDRAM is? Also, why was 4000 that much worse than 5100? I believe I have the 5100. And what makes the 6100 only marginally better than 5100?
 
Hieveryone said:
Can you tell me what eDRAM is? Also, why was 4000 that much worse than 5100? I believe I have the 5100. And what makes the 6100 only marginally better than 5100?
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The 5100 has far more EUs than the 4000.

eDRAM is basically a very fast cache area.

The 6100 isn't marginally better; it's way better for the fact alone that it can power 4K @ 60 Hz. The 6100 only has 8 more EUs than the 5100 though.

The 6100 also supports OpenCL 2.0, but the 5100 only support 1.2.
 
Hieveryone said:
Sweet. Yeah that sounds great. I'm definitely going to wait at this point.

I promised myself awhile ago I'm using this MBPr for at least 5 years. Apple somehow always finds a way to convince me out of it.

Thankfully, there are smart people on this forum to help stop me from wasting money :apple:
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That`s Apple`s strongest point, best spin the business :) Save your $$$$ until you need to spend, or something really significant to is brought to the table. Right now you have a killer Notebook for the next couple of years.

Q-6
 
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