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Whenever I read things about iPads in the tech world there just seems to be a snobbery that it isn't a laptop and its just a big iPod touch, a toy etc.

Whether it can replace a laptop or not is another discussion but I feel for general consumption there is nothing that beats it. To me it feels more futuristic than a laptop and I love that you can use touch on a big screen to interact with it. The battery life is A+ (something I don't think it gets enough credit for), its instantaneous to switch on from sleep, its fast and fluid, buttery smooth and be carried around anywhere.

On the software side of things I actually love its simplicity, and for general uses it is more than capable. Would I use it for work? Personally no. But that doesn't mean it isn't a great product. I own a lot of products but the iPad has always been my favourite.

If I want to kick back and browse the web the iPad is always my product of choice.

Who else is an iPad lover? :)
 
The iPad is not portable or pocketable like an iPhone or iPod, and it's not wearable like an Apple Watch or AirPods. In my day to day, I'd even say it's common for my iPad to not get as much usage as any of those smaller, more portable devices.

HOWEVER

It's still my favorite Apple device of all time and the only other one that I upgrade as often as my iPhone. It's the kind of computer that I used to see on cartoons or sci-fi shows as a kid and wish that some day I would have a device that worked and looked like that. It's not the device I always have with me at all times, but it's the device I will reach for instead of my iPhone or Mac every single time, and that's whether I'm creating or consuming. I do everything on my iPad, and I think of my iPhone as a miniature iPad rather than the other way around. My iPhone is my more portable iPad when I'm out and about.

Over the years, one by one, the Mac has lost every single job it used to do in my workflow to the iPad Pro. I still have a Mac because I'm required to have a work issued computer from my employer. And I do use it just in the interest of putting work wear and tear on work devices. Do I need it for any purpose other than that? Absolutely not. The Magic Keyboard with trackpad support just put a giant exclamation point on that fact.
 
Unless there is a specific reason and no way to do it on a iPad, I won’t use a Mac or pc. i use my iPad at work for not taking, email, office suite, and sneak in some of the hundreds of thousands of apps/games that are always compatible with my iPad.
 
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Underrated? No . . But I can appreciate people loving their devices, I certainly do.

Personally it can't replace my laptop (which also serves as my work desktop) and no iPad (or Mac for that matter) ever will. I use my iPP a lot every day but there's always stuff i can't do with it, whether its certain websites, applications or workflows. None of that means that the iPad can't be more useful to others though.
 
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Yeah, I agree. It also seems to be getting more and more capable with quality accessories. As a long-time Mac user it really reminds me of a modern OS 9—as much as I was excited when OS X came out. Its limitations are its strengths. It keeps me task focused.
 
I don't think iPads are underrated at all. They serve a purpose and the market share reflects that purpose.

Personally, I have an iPhone, iPad, MBP, and MP. The iPhone and MBP, I can't live without. The iPad has a narrow but important roll, and the MP is in storage as I'm not living at my house right now. If I had to give any up it would be the MP first and then the iPad.
 
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I am sold on the Apple ecosystem, everything in our home is Apple not a sign of Android or Microsoft. The wife and kids have iPads and love them.

I tried, had an iPad Air and then an iPad Pro when they first came out. I could not get on with the pen, the keyboards at the time didn't feel tactile to use and I was constantly looking for a USB port that wasn't there.

So my sweet spot is a phone and an 11 inch MBA. I think the iPad is a very good product and when I look at how my family use them I am in awe. I know I am in the minority with iPads or any other tablets. Just saying I could not find a reason for having one in my day to day life.

The kids still tease me about it to this day and I sold the iPad Pro 2 years ago!

So is it underrated? No it does what it says on the tin and is very good at it and I think most people know it is the standard to beat in tablets. Its just that what was inside the tin didn't suit my palate :)
 
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Yeah OP I don’t think underrated is the word. Under utilized maybe. iPads are terrifically popular and widely used everywhere

I use mine for work easily when I’m not in my office. Plus the screen and instant-on, some multitasking , portability etc. It’s such an awesome device
 
It's not underrated, but it's my favorite Apple product. I have both an 11 and 12.9 Pro that I use for different tasks. The 11 is for media consumption, light email, web surfing and reading. My 12.9 is for photo and video editing, browsing, and now with the new track pad, much more for office work.

I will say one thing though: iPadOS is really holding back the iPad for productivity use. 13 had some MUCH need improvements in it, but there are many things that still need work (files app, multi-tasking and better external monitor support are at the top of my list).
 
I am not sure that it is underrated. I do think that iPads rule the tablets market. Here it is more about where the tablet as a device fits and how people treat tablets as devices.

I like my iPad and I use it a lot but if you ask me which device I should choose between my laptop and my iPad I will choose my laptop because even when I use my iPad I use my laptop. Like I will put on movie on my laptop and then read in Books. Or I will read stuff from my laptop and make handwritten notes on my iPad. So in the end of the day the iPad is the coplementary device that further enhances my workflow but definitely not my main one. It is great with Pencil but it is like a notebook or a book. I rarely use books or notebooks in silence and alone.

I like its portability and it helps that on personal trips I can carry only the iPad. However I have like no more than 1 or 2 personal trips every year. If it is business trip I need my company laptop, if I visit my parents I need my company laptop. I rely on Micrisofot ecosystem integration (Outlook, OneNote) that just does not exist on iOS. And yeah I don't have my code or repos setup on the iPad. So in the end of the day I would have to carry my Windows machine anyway and this leaves the iPad as a secondary device. Cool, but still secondary one.
 
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It is underrated by some people that usually cannot adapt to a new way of working. Usually it is the "laptop replacement" that bothers them. It is now reduced to the lack of "Esc" key and windowed multitasking and for the very few who needs the terminal. The windowed multitasking will come when the iPads grew larger as will more and more full apps. Rumour has it Xcode and FCPX (Logic Pro?) will come to the iPad.

For many of us, the iPad is an indispensable tool that cannot be replaced with a laptop.
 
Whenever I read things about iPads in the tech world there just seems to be a snobbery that it isn't a laptop and its just a big iPod touch, a toy etc.

Whether it can replace a laptop or not is another discussion but I feel for general consumption there is nothing that beats it. To me it feels more futuristic than a laptop and I love that you can use touch on a big screen to interact with it. The battery life is A+ (something I don't think it gets enough credit for), its instantaneous to switch on from sleep, its fast and fluid, buttery smooth and be carried around anywhere.

On the software side of things I actually love its simplicity, and for general uses it is more than capable. Would I use it for work? Personally no. But that doesn't mean it isn't a great product. I own a lot of products but the iPad has always been my favourite.

If I want to kick back and browse the web the iPad is always my product of choice.

Who else is an iPad lover? :)
Don't have an iPad, but I do want one... :D I am wishing for Apple to put quad speakers to the cheapest iPad. Tried my friend's Pro, and what wowed me was definitely the speakers. But the Pros are way out of my budget.

I don't think it's underrated. I mean the iPad has literally won the tablet war. Samsung and Amazon are probably the only ones making generally marketed Android tablets. The market has spoken, and for tablets, the iPad is.

The snobbery ones are mostly people in forums or youtubers. It's just like how Windows and GUI has won the desktop PC market, but you still have some Linux enthusiasts in a forum talking trash about Windows and how command lines rules. ;)
 
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To clarify, when I say underrated I mean in the tech circles and places like this website.

In the tech world iPads are seen as an inferior product and always compared to laptops. Whereas I'm not sure that's always a fair comparison. iPads are ultimately consumption devices first with the work aspect an added bonus if you can make it work for you.

I mean its probably apples fault in a way as they are pushing it as a laptop replacement, but even before that it was dismissed as just a big iPhone. I think if the iPad had come out first the iPhone would be seen as a mini iPad not the other way round.
 
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To clarify, when I say underrated I mean in the tech circles and places like this website.

In the tech world iPads are seen as an inferior product and always compared to laptops. Whereas I'm not sure that's always a fair comparison. iPads are ultimately consumption devices first with the work aspect an added bonus if you can make it work for you.

I mean its probably apples fault in a way as they are pushing it as a laptop replacement, but even before that it was dismissed as just a big iPhone. I think if the iPad had come out first the iPhone would be seen as a mini iPad not the other way round.

I do think that one of the big reasons on why we compare iPad with laptops is Apple's marketing itself that promotes the iPad as such device.

The other reason why people say that iPad is a bigger iPhone is because both devices have the same OS and the iPad is bigger in size.

Then for me it is the market itself. Phones seem to be more mandatory to have than tablet. For the pure feature about making phones calls and being available to be contacted. Then nowadays most people have computers.

Now there are enough people that can afford owning both tablet and computer but not every person is like that. For some it really comes to computer vs tablet in terms of money. And then they naturally would ask the question.
 
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To clarify, when I say underrated I mean in the tech circles and places like this website.

In the tech world iPads are seen as an inferior product and always compared to laptops. Whereas I'm not sure that's always a fair comparison. iPads are ultimately consumption devices first with the work aspect an added bonus if you can make it work for you.

I mean its probably apples fault in a way as they are pushing it as a laptop replacement, but even before that it was dismissed as just a big iPhone. I think if the iPad had come out first the iPhone would be seen as a mini iPad not the other way round.

"Inferior" means different things to different people. "Inferior to a Mac" (for a particular person's needs) is different than "Inferior in build quality" (something I never hear about iPad when compared to other tablets).

I don't think there's anyone seriously arguing inferior quality. The focus is always on the "iPad can't replace my laptop" argument. In that case, "underrated" is only true if, in fact, an iPad can replace a laptop but the person doesn't recognize that possibility. And there's always the basic human trait of assuming that what's true for me is true for everyone else.

If a tool, any tool, cannot do a particular task, then it's simply unsuited to that task. You can say that it is being rated accurately.

My first-generation iPad (purchased just three days after it was available in-store) had replaced my laptop within three months. That wasn't my plan. It started as a test - to see how my company's ebook and online content performed on that new platform (the classic "iPad as a content delivery device"). But I quickly learned that iPad-with-Bluetooth-keyboard served all my needs as a writer and photographer while in the field, at a substantial reduction in weight and bulk (and since I was carrying it in a backpack all day long, weight and bulk was a very big thing). iPad-and-keyboard (and for a fair amount of time, that keyboard was a full-size Apple Bluetooth keyboard) fit better on airline tray tables than my Powerbook G4, so I was actually more productive in that situation than I had been previously.

I'm still very much a desktop-in-the-office person. I just don't need the same capabilities when I go portable. So iPad has been the right portable tool, for this professional, for a very long time.

If a laptop is a person's only computer, then it's less likely a working professional will consider iPad a replacement for that laptop. If the apps and/or workflow they depend upon are not available/practical on iPad, then iPad can't be a laptop replacement.

However, there certainly are those who just won't consider the possibilities. Rather than modify workflow or adopt different apps, they insist that nothing but a duplication of their existing laptop environment is acceptable. That's where iPad can definitely be underrated.

There's another "underrated" group who, I believe, argue that iPad is not a laptop replacement purely as a matter of ego. Back in the early days of PCs, there were minicomputer and mainframe users who called PCs "toys," despite all the professional work that was already being done on PCs (tell a small business that could afford to computerize for the first time that they were merely using a toy!). Some iPad "under-raters" fit into the same category - some of their self-esteem is tied up with the size/power of the tools they use (or the methods they use, like command line vs. GUI), regardless of whether they actually need all that size/power, or whether others need the same power they do.

Overall, just as the PC became less underrated as time went by, iPad is also less underrated with every passing year. I think this Year of COVID in particular will be a major leap forward in iPad acceptance - more people using them out of necessity who then learn just how capable an iPad can be.
 
"Inferior" means different things to different people. "Inferior to a Mac" (for a particular person's needs) is different than "Inferior in build quality" (something I never hear about iPad when compared to other tablets).

I don't think there's anyone seriously arguing inferior quality. The focus is always on the "iPad can't replace my laptop" argument. In that case, "underrated" is only true if, in fact, an iPad can replace a laptop but the person doesn't recognize that possibility. And there's always the basic human trait of assuming that what's true for me is true for everyone else.

If a tool, any tool, cannot do a particular task, then it's simply unsuited to that task. You can say that it is being rated accurately.

My first-generation iPad (purchased just three days after it was available in-store) had replaced my laptop within three months. That wasn't my plan. It started as a test - to see how my company's ebook and online content performed on that new platform (the classic "iPad as a content delivery device"). But I quickly learned that iPad-with-Bluetooth-keyboard served all my needs as a writer and photographer while in the field, at a substantial reduction in weight and bulk (and since I was carrying it in a backpack all day long, weight and bulk was a very big thing). iPad-and-keyboard (and for a fair amount of time, that keyboard was a full-size Apple Bluetooth keyboard) fit better on airline tray tables than my Powerbook G4, so I was actually more productive in that situation than I had been previously.

I'm still very much a desktop-in-the-office person. I just don't need the same capabilities when I go portable. So iPad has been the right portable tool, for this professional, for a very long time.

If a laptop is a person's only computer, then it's less likely a working professional will consider iPad a replacement for that laptop. If the apps and/or workflow they depend upon are not available/practical on iPad, then iPad can't be a laptop replacement.

However, there certainly are those who just won't consider the possibilities. Rather than modify workflow or adopt different apps, they insist that nothing but a duplication of their existing laptop environment is acceptable. That's where iPad can definitely be underrated.

There's another "underrated" group who, I believe, argue that iPad is not a laptop replacement purely as a matter of ego. Back in the early days of PCs, there were minicomputer and mainframe users who called PCs "toys," despite all the professional work that was already being done on PCs (tell a small business that could afford to computerize for the first time that they were merely using a toy!). Some iPad "under-raters" fit into the same category - some of their self-esteem is tied up with the size/power of the tools they use (or the methods they use, like command line vs. GUI), regardless of whether they actually need all that size/power, or whether others need the same power they do.

Overall, just as the PC became less underrated as time went by, iPad is also less underrated with every passing year. I think this Year of COVID in particular will be a major leap forward in iPad acceptance - more people using them out of necessity who then learn just how capable an iPad can be.
I think you pretty much knocked it out of the park here. 100% agree.
 
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I'm in the old school category of thinking a laptop is just better for most things. The new iPads are cool and I want to like them, but when it comes down to it most of the stuff I do is just faster and easier on a laptop. I even made myself a pros and cons list trying to convince myself to get an iPad and couldn't make it work. There are workarounds for most things but then there are several things you just can't do on it at all, like torrents or disk utility. My 13" Macbook Pro vanishes in my bag when I travel and there isn't even a portability advantage of an iPad if you have the keyboard and trackpad attached.
 
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I think all Apple products are appropriately rated with the exception of the Apple Watch. That device is completely overrated, and this is coming from an Apple Watch owner!
 
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