Not sure if apple was clear about FaceID, is it 2nd gen or same as iPhone X, just with software update? I’m debating whether I should upgrade from iPhone X, if Face ID is truly 2nd gen, it might nudge me because otherwise I don’t see much difference from iPhone x
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iPhone 11 Is faster Face ID a hardware upgrade?
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I don't think they specifically called it new hardware, but based on the fact that it works from wider angels it sure seems so. I expect almost all reviews that come out next week to mention something about it and make a comparison against the X, XS, and XR.
Apple would definitely say if there's new FaceID hardware, my guess it's software based.
Could be hardware based too, in addition to software. Faster chip means faster processing of the facial scan data.
Just to be sure...you know FaceID is not handled by the A13 Chip...
IMHO Apple would most likely have said so if the hardware changed.
The processor is part of unlocking the phone via FaceID.
It stands to reason the faster the CPU can confirm a match, the faster the device will unlock.
I’m pretty sure it says on their info that as part of ios13 so assume it is software based
If it was noticeably 2nd gen, they would have had a song and dance about it on stage to make up for the thin content. For the XS they mentioned it was updated slightly but no mention for the 11 Pro. My money's on there being practically no difference between the XS and 11 Pro.
Not version 2, but better, which is all that really matters. They’ll likely upgrade the system for the next 3 year series.
If the 2015 keynote that spent 10 seconds announcing Gen 2 TouchID is any indication, no, Apple would definitely not have said there was new hardware. OTOH, the improvements didn't even get the 10 seconds that Gen 2 TouchID got in 2015 at this year's keynote. On the other other hand, no one was giving Apple **** about TouchID, as far as I can recall. There's been a huge pile of grief here and elsewhere about FaceID, and Apple might be reluctant to imply that the critics were even partly right. Who knows right now...we'll probably find out when iFixit tears one apart.
Face ID is just faster due to faster cpu. I guess more angles will help. But it’s not gen 2
Nothing will be as fast as Touch ID gen 2. Man. If they had A13 with gen 2 tough ID. Would be blazing fast.
I still prefer Touch ID gen 2 even though I have gotten used to xs max the past 12 months. It’s not the same. My pixel 3 XL finger print ID is also blazing fast.
I’m in the operating room most of
The day and Face ID sucks cause of the face mask we have to wear.
Nothing will be as fast as Touch ID gen 2. Man. If they had A13 with gen 2 tough ID. Would be blazing fast.
I still prefer Touch ID gen 2 even though I have gotten used to xs max the past 12 months. It’s not the same. My pixel 3 XL finger print ID is also blazing fast.
I’m in the operating room most of
The day and Face ID sucks cause of the face mask we have to wear.
I need someone to explain to me how the fastest CPU in the world would be able to improve distance and angles.
I wish Apple would build a phone with both. There are certain situations where TouchID worked better such as certain angles such as in car at a red light or at night when laying down sideways. FaceID works better with wet or greasy hands and privacy for on screen notifications. Why can’t we have the best of both worlds????
If you put a gun to my head, I’d take TouchID over FaceID. I’m hoping this changes with the 11 Pro.
I‘m assuming that Apple updated the FaceID infrared camera (as they did the front facing camera).
So while there may be hardware based improvements along with iOS13 based improvements, the guts of FaceID (the dot projector, and flood illuminator) have assumably remained the same; so it wouldn’t make sense to specifically promote it updates as Gen 2.
It won’t.
Best guess is that that the 30% faster FaceID is a combination of increased processing speed, slight tweaks to the TrueDepth cameras for distance and angle, along with iOS 13 enhancements.
The specs on Apple.com says the 11 has a third generation neural engine. That should help with speed, correct?
You should be wearing gloves as well, so both authentication methods will be problematic.
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I'm on ios13 gm and I'm extremely happy with the new Face ID speed on the iphone x. Noticeably faster.
Don’t think so. Just a lot faster and better viewing angles. I have an Xs Max with iOS 13 beta and FaceID unlocks a lot faster.
With a 12MP front facing camera I’d say it is better. Low light operation, and it works
The neural engine resides inside the SOC where the CPU is, the GPU, is and the system memory is too!
The neural engine is not in the cpu
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The neural engine resides inside the SOC where the CPU is, the GPU, is and the system memory is too!
The neural engine is not in the cpu
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