I know the M4 Pro 14c with 20c GPU will be faster than the M1 Max w 32 GPU cores virtually everywhere. I am wondering where the M1 Max w 32 might still have the advantage.
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Does the M1 Max do anything better than the M4 Pro?
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Media encoding using the Media Engine. They haven't got all that much faster since the M1, and all Max models have two. Pros have one.
Right. I don't do a ton of video work but when I do I like it to be fast. When exactly do the video encoders kick in? Like when Im exporting an iMovie? Using FFMPEG?
From what I read, it is used for decode and encode of certain codecs, but I don't know which ones exactly.
I did hear AV1 and Apple ProRes, but whether they can handle others, I'm not sure.
A quick Google for M4 says:
* H.264
* HEVC
* Apple ProRes
* Apple ProRes RAW
* AV1
M4 Pro gets 1 processor. M4 Max gets 2 processors.
I did hear AV1 and Apple ProRes, but whether they can handle others, I'm not sure.
A quick Google for M4 says:
* H.264
* HEVC
* Apple ProRes
* Apple ProRes RAW
* AV1
M4 Pro gets 1 processor. M4 Max gets 2 processors.
Would only imagine videowork would be faster due to double encoder/decoder and media engine.
Other than that... every other task the M4 Pro will be superior due to the higher clock speed on the performance cores && raytracing capability for graphics over M1 Max.
Other than that... every other task the M4 Pro will be superior due to the higher clock speed on the performance cores && raytracing capability for graphics over M1 Max.
Check out Howard Oakley's post from this morning.
I think it will help answer your question:
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I think it will help answer your question:
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Honest question, is there anything beyond a small number of games that uses the raytracing hardware?
Much better it seems
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Yes gpu rendering in most video editing software would show that to a certain extent.
Not so much most likely for photos as photo are standalone images.
You're saying raytracing hardware in GPUs is used by video editing software? Huh, didn't expect that. Do you have a link to something that explains what exactly they do with it?
Yes especially if one uses DaVinci resolve. Davinci Resolve is amazing at taking advantage of new features and hardware, in contrast to programs i've used before [Premiere Pro which is still inefficient
Cannot [yet] comment on Final Cut Pro because my codecs are only supported by Davinci Resolve.
I know from previous Max Tech explained this pretty well in one if his videos but I can't now remember exactly wh ich as they put out way too many videos over the course of the months so I lost track.
Wanted to clarify the information you're getting. No video editing doesn't use raytracing. Raytracing is a 3D lighting effect. So there may be a plugin out there that adds lighting effects to something using RT it certainly not something most editors would need.
In term of your original question of non-gaming uses of raytracing, some lighting effects in 3D (CAD or GCI) software that's been update to take advantage of the hardware acceleration is the only other example I know of. For example Blender's Cycles uses ray/path tracing.
I know what raytracing is, that's why I was surprised that video editors supposedly were using it.
Of course sometimes hardware built for one purpose can be used for something completely different, like how "abusing" GPU shaders gave rise go GPGPU computing. Raytracing hardware does what exactly, it performs fast ray intersection tests against specialised data structures? I have no idea whether that can be put to any other use, or is so specialised that it can't really.
Oh, for sure. Not saying it's not possible, but as an avid gamer, and a professional video editor I pay close attention to both spaces I haven't heard of an "abuses" of "off label" uses of raytracing that would apply to video editing.
To the other commenters note about DaVinci Resolve, if anything there's a small community that's mad they haven't added ray tracing support to the Fushion panel (which can do 3D effects, so that would still be "on label" use of RT).
M1 Max 32gb RAM 2TB SSD, 32 core GPU v M4 Pro unbinned, 48gb RAM, 2TB SSD, 20 core GPU. Using FFworks FFmpeg GUI tool, hardware accelerated encoding to H.264 from various formats revealed that the M1 Max was between 10-25% faster on the encode.
