MP 1,1-5,1 Dual OS Mojave & Catalina running Logic Pro X

[sLopeFx]

Hello, So i've been using my MP 5,1 with OS Mojave for music production (Logic Pro X) and I just installed a 2nd 1TB SSD so I can run OCLP so I can update to OS Catalina and run a more current update of Logic Pro X.

That said, my questions are:
Once I have completed OCLP and installed OS Catalina on the second SSD how will I run the newer update of Logic Pro X?
Will I need to install Logic Pro X on the second SSD as well?
Also, can I run the older version of Logic Pro X when booting from the Mojave drive at any other time?

Thanks so much for the advice/help!

 

[Bigwaff]

Hello, So i've been using my MP 5,1 with OS Mojave for music production (Logic Pro X) and I just installed a 2nd 1TB SSD so I can run OCLP so I can update to OS Catalina and run a more current update of Logic Pro X.

That said, my questions are:
Once I have completed OCLP and installed OS Catalina on the second SSD how will I run the newer update of Logic Pro X?
Will I need to install Logic Pro X on the second SSD as well?
Also, can I run the older version of Logic Pro X when booting from the Mojave drive at any other time?

Thanks so much for the advice/help!

OCLP does not support Catalina. Support for installing unsupported OS starts with Monterey.

For Catalina, you need DosDude Catalina patcher.

macOS Catalina Patcher

 

[tsialex]

Support for installing unsupported OS starts with Monterey.

This info is incorrect, OCLP supports Big Sur forward.

Will I need to install Logic Pro X on the second SSD as well?

Yes, you´ll need different versions of Logic Pro X.

Also, can I run the older version of Logic Pro X when booting from the Mojave drive at any other time?

Since you need different versions, each one will be separately installed to the disks running Mojave and whatever unsupported release you install - Monterey is the unsupported version that runs best with a MacPro5,1.

 

[sLopeFx]

OCLP does not support Catalina. Support for installing unsupported OS starts with Monterey.

For Catalina, you need DosDude Catalina patcher.

macOS Catalina Patcher

Understood and thank you for the advise and link!

 

[sLopeFx]

This info is incorrect, OCLP supports Big Sur forward.



Yes, you´ll need different versions of Logic Pro X.



Since you need different versions, each one will be separately installed to the disks running Mojave and whatever unsupported release you install - Monterey is the unsupported version that runs best with a MacPro5,1.

Awesome and thanks for answering my questions. Good to know that Monterey runs the best on a MP 5,1.

I want to confirm if I will also need to install all of my audio plugins for Logic Pro X on the SSD running the newer OS and Logic?

Also, If I choose to start with Catalina via DosDude Catalina patcher and then decide to upgrade to Monterey, will I have to initialize my SSD and reinstall all audio software again or can I just upgrade without wiping my drive via OCLP?

 

[tsialex]

I want to confirm if I will also need to install all of my audio plugins for Logic Pro X on the SSD running the newer OS and Logic?

You'll need to install everything to the newer OS, you can't run from the Mojave installed one. Different versions, independent instances.

Also, If I choose to start with Catalina via DosDude Catalina patcher and then decide to upgrade to Monterey, will I have to initialize my SSD and reinstall all audio software again or can I just upgrade without wiping my drive via OCLP?

Do a clean install of Monterey via OCLP to a new/erased drive. Do not try to upgrade Catalina to Monterey.

 

[sLopeFx]

You'll need to install everything to the newer OS, you can't run from the Mojave installed one. Different versions, independent instances.



Do a clean install of Monterey via OCLP to a new/erased drive. Do not try to upgrade Catalina to Monterey.

Excellent. Thank you for your help!

 

[Minghold]

Hello, So i've been using my MP 5,1 with OS Mojave for music production (Logic Pro X) and I just installed a 2nd 1TB SSD so I can run OCLP so I can update to OS Catalina and run a more current update of Logic Pro X.

That said, my questions are:
Once I have completed OCLP and installed OS Catalina on the second SSD how

Recommend not upgrading beyond Mojave (and especially not for anyone whose machine does not have a full SSD boot drive). --You'll give up all 32bit software (i.e., everything that will actually run fast on a 5,1.) With Mojave, you'll be able to run Parallels 18, and therefore any Linux or Windows distro in a separate window (and thus up-to-date browsers, etc., so there's little-to-no real need for a "newer" version of the MacOS anyway). BTW, if you want to run an older version of Logic (such as v9, with a bunch of handy features Apple then removed), install Retroactive (which lets you run a few artifically-obsolesced pieces of software in Mojave, including Final Cut Pro 7 and Aperture).

Also, if the DosDude1 patch for Mojave works for your machine (i.e., all drivers/kexts function correctly), then you can avoid the trickiness of OCLP's EFI partition (which is easier to create than get rid of).

 

[tsialex]

Also, if the DosDude1 patch for Mojave works for your machine (i.e., all drivers/kexts function correctly), then you can avoid the trickiness of OCLP's EFI partition (which is easier to create than get rid of).

This statement does not make any sense.

First, Mojave fully supports MacPro5,1. Second, OCLP only works with Big Sur forward.

Why on earth you suggest to anyone to hack a fully supported macOS release…

 

[sLopeFx]

Recommend not upgrading beyond Mojave (and especially not for anyone whose machine does not have a full SSD boot drive). --You'll give up all 32bit software (i.e., everything that will actually run fast on a 5,1.) With Mojave, you'll be able to run Parallels 18, and therefore any Linux or Windows distro in a separate window (and thus up-to-date browsers, etc., so there's little-to-no real need for a "newer" version of the MacOS anyway). BTW, if you want to run an older version of Logic (such as v9, with a bunch of handy features Apple then removed), install Retroactive (which lets you run a few artifically-obsolesced pieces of software in Mojave, including Final Cut Pro 7 and Aperture).

Also, if the DosDude1 patch for Mojave works for your machine (i.e., all drivers/kexts function correctly), then you can avoid the trickiness of OCLP's EFI partition (which is easier to create than get rid of).

Thanks for your message and suggestions. I have been running Mojave on my MP 5,1 on a SATA HD without any issues since ~2020. I only use PC based systems for tuning or tweaking my vehicles and not for music production. I do run a 2012 mac mini with Logic 9 since there are 3 or 4 32 bit plugins that even 32 Lives could not resurrect on my MP 5,1. Thanks again for your incite.

 

[Minghold]

OCLP only works with Big Sur forward.

The latest versions of OCLP only work with whatever; older versions supported earlier versions of the OS.

Why on earth you suggest to anyone to hack a fully supported macOS release…

The DosDude1 Patcher contains the Mojave installer (sans time expiration). It's 8gb, so you make a 9gb MacOS extended-journaled partition at the end of the drive, and clone it over with CCC5, which will then ask you if you'd also like to make a Recovery Partition, to which you answer hell-yes to. (This is a handy way to get a machine-resident Recovery Partition on an SSD otherwise formatted to APFS.) To disable SIP (for whatever your necessary reason is), you need to boot from a recovery partition. I'd rather wait two minutes for one on the drive than ten minutes for Command-R WiFi struggling to reach Apple for a network version.)

 

[tsialex]

The latest versions of OCLP only work with whatever; older versions supported earlier versions of the OS.

You should really confirm what you are writing and think twice before posting incorrect information.

OCLP only supports Big Sur forward, read note 2, and never supported anything earlier:

GitHub - dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher: Experience macOS just like before

Experience macOS just like before. Contribute to dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

I'd rather wait two minutes for one on the drive than ten minutes for Command-R WiFi struggling to reach Apple for a network version.)

You write like that a supported macOS install does not make the Recovery partition - seems that the problem what you do and not supported Mojave.