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Ecovacs recently came out with its newest robot vacuum, the Deebot X11 Omnicyclone. Like the last couple of models, this new vacuum has Matter integration and it's able to connect to HomeKit so it can be sent off to clean the floor with Siri voice commands.

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Design

The X11 is the same size as the prior-generation X9, coming in at 3.86 inches tall. I've tested several robot vacuums now, and that's on the thinner side. It can get under almost all of my furniture, including my stove, to vacuum in areas that are often untouched.

Height is the most important metric when it comes to robot vacuums, but if you have a lot of tightly spaced furniture, you also need to consider width. The X11 is about 13.8 inches across, and it could be too large for smaller apartments.

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Underneath the vacuum, there's a roller bar, a mop, a brush that gets into nooks and crannies along baseboards, a canister for dust and debris, and internal areas for clean and dirty water for mop washing and cleaning. You can access the dust canister by removing the top plate of the robot and undoing the latch.

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Exterior vacuum design didn't change much between the X9 and the X11, but the X11's base station is entirely different. It's significantly larger than before because it includes a reusable canister for dust instead of a bag.

The canister is why the X11 has its "Omnicyclone" name. It reminds me of a Dyson-style vacuum canister, and it's built right into the middle of the base station. You can pop it out and empty it into the trash, then stick it right back in. Large chunks of debris can get stuck, so as with a Dyson, the canister can need cleaning at times. There is no need to buy bags with the X11, which does make it stand out from other robot vacuums on the market.

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Along with the vacuum canister, the base station houses a 2.7-liter dirty water tank and a 3.2-liter clean water tank. The water tanks are larger than the tanks in the X9, which means less maintenance. I fill the clean water tank less, and I try to remember to empty the dirty water tank regularly because it can get smelly if it sits.

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Inside the base station, there's a spot to add cleaning fluid. The X11 supports two kinds of cleaning fluid, one for standard cleaning and one for deep cleaning. Two cleaning fluid options are more expensive and more of a hassle, so I'm not a fan of the dual cleaning. Ecovacs recommends that you use Ecovacs cleaning fluid, and it sells the two variants.

Setup and Maintenance

Setting up the X11 is straightforward enough that anyone can do it. There's a single-page startup guide that has easy instructions on putting the base station components together, then it's just a matter of filling the water tank, downloading the app, turning on the robot, and following the app steps for pairing.

The X11 is simple enough that someone not technologically inclined could operate it, but the number of app settings and complicated features like voice activation could be confusing. None of those features are required, and it can clean on default settings, but if you have older parents who struggle with electronics and buy this (or any robot vacuum) for them, you're going to get calls for troubleshooting.

There is maintenance to take care of, like occasionally replacing the rollers and brush with parts purchased from Ecovacs. The site sells a bundle that includes a new roller brush, three filters and two side brushes for $60, and a new roller mop is $35.

Vacuuming

The X11 has the strongest suction of any robot vacuum that I've tried. It is excellent at picking up pet hair, dust, and debris on my hardwood and tile floors. I started tossing a handful or two of dirt on the floor to see how much robot vacuums can clean up, and the X11 got almost all of it in the first pass.

Robot vacuums are meant to clean regularly rather than deeply, which is why it's not an ideal test, but it does give me a clear metric to compare by.

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According to Ecovacs, the X11 has 19,000 Pa suction and it uses the same Blast system (multi-stage suction and airflow) from prior Ecovacs robots. It's more suction than the X9, which I already thought worked well, and more suction than the Roborock vacuum I use regularly. If you have hard floors and pets or kids, it's good at getting up even trace amounts of pet hair, and it doesn't miss crumbs in the kitchen.

There's a side brush for sweeping along baseboards and in corners, and it's able to get most dirt and fur up. You'll want to manually vacuum in corners every so often, but it's not a situation where the X11 is vacuuming the main area of a room and pushing dust to the sides. It is able to use the added side brush and the improved suction to do a passable job keeping hard to reach areas clean.

Ecovacs' robots have a ZeroTangle brush, and it works. I have long hair, my partner has long hair, and we have two cats. I haven't seen the brush get tangled up with hair, and I've never had to fuss with it.

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The X11 is able to get over higher thresholds than prior Ecovacs robots, so if you have a tall threshold that other robots can't handle, the X11 might be able to navigate it. It can go over thresholds as high as 2.4cm (0.95 inches). It can get into a bathroom that has a higher than average threshold, but another room with a baby gate has a threshold too high for it to overcome. I definitely notice a difference between the X11 and the older X9 when it comes to threshold navigation.

Despite stronger suction, the X11 isn't louder than prior models, measuring in at around 62 dBA in tests. I wouldn't want to sleep while the X11 is running, but I can work while it's on if I put in my AirPods Pro to block out the noise. Emptying the vacuum into the canister at the base station is the loudest a... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: Ecovacs Deebot X11 Omnicyclone Review: HomeKit Robot Vacuum With Bagless Design and Fast Charging
 
I have a house that actually has a centralized vacuum system built with the house, with wall connectors in most rooms. These robovacuums should eventually be installed with centralized vacuums as part of the home buying process, maybe built into the cabinets or walls.
 
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Pretty long ad -- the only mention of anything Apple is the 2nd sentence "HomeKit" and "Matter". Would be nice to know what being HomeKit compatible actually gets you.

EDIT: seems to be 2 different versions of this article/review. The "View Full article" shows you a much longer, more detailed article with details of the app vs. what you see as the whole article when on the comments screen. I always thought the article on the comments screen was the whole article.
 
Pretty long ad -- the only mention of anything Apple is the 2nd sentence "HomeKit" and "Matter". Would be nice to know what being HomeKit compatible actually gets you.

EDIT: seems to be 2 different versions of this article/review. The "View Full article" shows you a much longer, more detailed article with details of the app vs. what you see as the whole article when on the comments screen. I always thought the article on the comments screen was the whole article.

It's truncated on the forums so it's not super long. Definitely click on the read more option to see the whole thing! I did go into more detail on the Home app - it's handy to be able to ask Siri to clean a room. Also, just for clarification: not an ad or a paid post.

I have a house that actually has a centralized vacuum system built with the house, with wall connectors in most rooms. These robovacuums should eventually be installed with centralized vacuums as part of the home buying process, maybe built into the cabinets or walls.

Base stations integrated into the walls would be awesome. Could even hook them up to water. I used to think robot vacuums were silly, but the tech has come far enough that they're genuinely useful.

I like robot vacuums so much that I'm actually mulling buying Ecovacs' window cleaning robot.

love the cat

I have a two minute video of him riding the vacuum, but it didn't seem relevant enough to the review!
 
Is it better than DJI romo?

I haven't used the DJI Romo, and the website isn't really rich with info on it, but here are my thoughts from looking at the specs:

- It can do 178 square meters on a charge, which is about 2,000 square feet. After that, it needs to charge three hours. In real world usage, it probably runs out of battery a little sooner, so I would expect that it would need a midway cleaning pause like most robot vacuums.
- It has dual spinning mops instead of a roller mop. A lot of cleaning robots have this design with two circular spinning mopping pads (like Roborock). They work well, but I like that the roller mop design cleans and squeezes out dirty water so it's not really spreading dirt. DJI says that the base station can use high pressure water to better clean the mop pads, which I'd like to see in action.
- 164ml water tank in the vacuum itself means it can clean longer. X11 is 110ml.
- The 25,000Pa suction is pretty high. I'd expect it to be good at getting up dust, fur, and other debris, even in carpet.
- There's a spinning brush with a spiral structure so it can't tangle. That kind of design is common with the higher-end robot vacuums.
- If the vacuum mode is actually 56 dBA, that's quieter than the Ecovacs X11, which is around 60 dBA.
- There's an option to hook it up to water/drainage, which is nice. That's not a feature most robot vacuums offer. But you need to have the setup for it.
- Since this is DJI, I'm assuming the navigation is decent. It says it can detect cable thickness, obstacle height, etc. So can other robots.
- The clear design is super cool. I want it just for that.
- No Matter/HomeKit if you care about that.
 
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maybe slightly tangential but also related - dad, please stop putting the washcloth mop thingy from this onto the top of the dishwasher rack, its gross for it to slowly leak down onto the plates and silverware. I just emptied the DW and then noticed the gross washcloth mop on top after emptying. I think the better way to clean that little mop towle is to put a little laundry detergent into a red solo cup, some hot water, let it soak for 30 minutes to an hour, and then wash it and wring it out and watch as its always gonna kinda be grey water seeping out of it, so I don't think you should put it in the dishwasher.
 
It's odd that it's not possible to buy a vacuum robot without mopping...!
 
Yes, I saw no mention of privacy. Is the house map and imaging processed else where or on the device ? Homekit suggests to me a la cameras such info may stay stored on iCloud servers if anywhere.
 
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Base stations integrated into the walls would be awesome. Could even hook them up to water. I used to think robot vacuums were silly, but the tech has come far enough that they're genuinely useful.

I like robot vacuums so much that I'm actually mulling buying Ecovacs' window cleaning robot.
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I've been using robot vacuums since 2009 when my first one (a Roomba) had no navigation abilities and attempted to cover a whole room by bumping randomly off walls for a fixed period of time. My various upgrades over the last 16 years have taken me through innovations such as Lidar sensors for systematic room cleaning and whole-house mapping, auto-empty docks, vacuuming and mopping in the same unit, and most recently my first robot with a plumbed in base station so that it can automatically refill the clean water tank and empty out the dirty water for the mop (and also dry the mop pads).

Having a fully plumbed in dock is such a game changer that when I next upgrade the availability of a plumbed-in dock will be a 100% mandatory requirement for me. With anti-tangle brush technology now performing perfectly at least in my home (no pets) it really does make the vacuum almost 100% set-and-forget. Mine cleans the whole house daily and apart from very infrequent changing of the mop pads and roller and side brushes about once a year all I need to do is empty the dust bag about every 2 months and clean the dust filter and give the sensors a quick wipe (a 2 to 3 minute job) about every 3 or 4 weeks.

When I had my kitchen refitted I got the kitchen company to leave a gap in the kick plate under one of the base cabinets, make a cut-out in the bottom and make the door about 4 cm shorter so my robot lives compleytely tucked away at the bottom of the cabinet. I think I now have the perfect setup and I love it.

I've also toyed with the idea of getting one of those Ecovacs window cleaning robots.
 
I haven't used the DJI Romo, and the website isn't really rich with info on it, but here are my thoughts from looking at the specs:

- It can do 178 square meters on a charge, which is about 2,000 square feet. After that, it needs to charge three hours. In real world usage, it probably runs out of battery a little sooner, so I would expect that it would need a midway cleaning pause like most robot vacuums.
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I split my daily clean into two parts. I clean the living areas (kitchen, living room, dining room, front hall) in one run in the morning while I am still in bed and do the bedrooms and bathrooms in the early afternoon when I'm not using them. That keeps the vacuum out of my way and also avoids any battery life issues. It also acts as an alarm clock since I time the morning run so that the quite loud auto-empty at the end of the cleaning run is timed to be about when I usually get out of bed and one of my bedrooms is my home office so I have my bedroom-cleaning run timed to start at 12:55 so when I hear the robot start up that is my cue to take a break from work and go into the living room to watch the 1 o'clock news on TV.
 
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Yes, I saw no mention of privacy. Is the house map and imaging processed else where or on the device ? Homekit suggests to me a la cameras such info may stay stored on iCloud servers if anywhere.
Yea, I'm surprised these products are reviewed here on Macforum without any mention of IT-security.
Ecovacs won the "worst in show" on CES when it comes to IT-security.

Only when they got pulled up on the issues.

There is loads to read on Ecovacs, especially when it comes to IT-security and the lack of it.


My 5 cents, there are better brands out there that do give a toss about users privacy and IT-security.
 
I got a robot vacuum from Xiaomi for 350$ and it’s been serving me very well for three years. The price of this thing is insane.
 
I've been using robot vacuums since 2009 when my first one (a Roomba) had no navigation abilities and attempted to cover a whole room by bumping randomly off walls for a fixed period of time. My various upgrades over the last 16 years have taken me through innovations such as Lidar sensors for systematic room cleaning and whole-house mapping, auto-empty docks, vacuuming and mopping in the same unit, and most recently my first robot with a plumbed in base station so that it can automatically refill the clean water tank and empty out the dirty water for the mop (and also dry the mop pads).

Having a fully plumbed in dock is such a game changer that when I next upgrade the availability of a plumbed-in dock will be a 100% mandatory requirement for me. With anti-tangle brush technology now performing perfectly at least in my home (no pets) it really does make the vacuum almost 100% set-and-forget. Mine cleans the whole house daily and apart from very infrequent changing of the mop pads and roller and side brushes about once a year all I need to do is empty the dust bag about every 2 months and clean the dust filter and give the sensors a quick wipe (a 2 to 3 minute job) about every 3 or 4 weeks.

When I had my kitchen refitted I got the kitchen company to leave a gap in the kick plate under one of the base cabinets, make a cut-out in the bottom and make the door about 4 cm shorter so my robot lives compleytely tucked away at the bottom of the cabinet. I think I now have the perfect setup and I love it.

I've also toyed with the idea of getting one of those Ecovacs window cleaning robots.

Where do you have it plumbed to? I'd love to do that, but I wasn't sure what the ones that support plumbing need for wastewater. Sounds like an awesome setup. I am definitely on the same page as you - I don't think I'd want to be without one of these little vacs, even doing the manual labor of filling and emptying.
 
Yes, I saw no mention of privacy. Is the house map and imaging processed else where or on the device ? Homekit suggests to me a la cameras such info may stay stored on iCloud servers if anywhere.

Yea, I'm surprised these products are reviewed here on Macforum without any mention of IT-security.
Ecovacs won the "worst in show" on CES when it comes to IT-security.

Only when they got pulled up on the issues.

There is loads to read on Ecovacs, especially when it comes to IT-security and the lack of it.


My 5 cents, there are better brands out there that do give a toss about users privacy and IT-security.

I did cut some stuff because the review was super long. If you read my first Ecovacs review, I have some privacy info there.


Compared to like Roborock, Ecovacs has a decent privacy policy. There's actually a privacy section in the app with info on what they collect, and options to turn off some data collection. Cloud storage is in the U.S., and they do say what it's used for. Object recognition is on-device, and only uploaded to the cloud if the user improvement plan is enabled.


I hadn't seen the "Worst in Show" CES thing. I think Ecovacs made some improvements, because you need actual physical access to the vacuum to use the camera mode now.

I've only looked at the privacy policies of the devices that I've used/reviewed, so I definitely don't know enough comparative info to tell you which companies have better security.
 
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Where do you have it plumbed to? I'd love to do that, but I wasn't sure what the ones that support plumbing need for wastewater. Sounds like an awesome setup. I am definitely on the same page as you - I don't think I'd want to be without one of these little vacs, even doing the manual labor of filling and emptying.

I was having a whole new kitchen fitted so I had a plumber on site for a day and as well as sorting out the sink and dishwasher I also got him to T-off a cold water outlet (with isolator tap) from the cold water supply and provide an extra connection to the drainage/outlet pipe from the sink so it was pretty easy. There is no need for a hot water connection because just like a washing machine or dishwasher the dock heats the cold water internally for mop cleaning.

The plumbing kit supplied with a fully-plumbed dock probably varies a bit from manufacturer to manufacturer but I suspect not a lot. My model was/is a Dreame X40 Master that I've had for a while. The connections to the cold water supply and to the waste water drain are by flexible hoses with push-fit connectors at the dock end and various adapters were supplied to T-into the connection to a sink tap or washing machine supply. The supplied hoses are quite long (I forget exactly how long because I cut them down but I think at least 3 metres for each hose) and they are fairly narrow diameter. Again I forget the exact diameters but I think the cold water supply hose is about 12mm diameter and the waste water discharge hose is about 15mm in diameter so they are pretty easy to route and you don't have to have the dock right next to the connections.

Basically if you are within about 3 meters (maybe more) of somewhere that has plumbing for a sink, a washing machine or a dishwasher you can tap into those connections and everything should be good.
 
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