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geese

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Hi, I'm finally getting round to replacing my ageing Performa 5500 and am going am going to get an eMac on educational discount for £520 (GPB).

Quick 2 questions though, is it worth shelling out extra to increase the 256mb memory to 512mb? It seems a trifle excessive.

And what are your experience's of Hard Drive space, is 40gb enough, or should i shell out for 80gb?

I'm mostly going to be using iTunes on it, downloading various stuff off broadband, using Dreamweaver, and general larking about really. I wanna play with Garageband alot. And Tractor DJ thingy.

Another thing, how good is the screen? Is it a bog standard 17" crt or is it a Trinitron or whatever. I'm trying to compare it to an equivelent Dell (just for fun, y'know) and the Dell doesnt seem to compare all that well. Can someone else have a go for fun?

Sorry about the meandering nature of this post, do help though. Wanna get new computah
 
I would definitely get more memory, just not from Apple - www.crucial.com has the cheapest around. Also, since you say you are going to be doing some downloading and using Garageband I would say go for the larger drive. Not only will it give you more space, but I think it's also faster (if not, someone please correct me) which will be better for Garageband - I have found that speed and space are the keys with this monster.

Good luck, and enjoy your new mac!

- reaper
 
Definately get more memory!!!

Get 512mb from apple. It isn't that expensive to do this upgrade, and you will only use one of the DIMM slots if you do it from the factory (you must specify the one dimm option). Getting an extra 256mb card later doesn't make sense, because you would then be using both slots, and would have to waste the RAM if you want to upgrade to 756 or 1G of RAM.

I got the 512 for the emac directly from apple (when I purchased the computer), and still have one open slot. I am shopping around for another 512. However, I do a bit of digital video editing (home stuff), plus digital photography, so the extra RAM is nice for what I do.

Good Luck,

-alywa
 
Hard drive space

Sorry... didn't see the second part of the question. Yes, get the 80G hard drive. If you plan to use the computer as a jukebox, it's increadible how quickly you can eat up space with music. I got the 80G drive, and still have 52G left... however if I had only gotten the 40G drive, I'd be sweating about my space right now.

-alywa
 
If you plan on using your Mac for anything half serious, I would highly suggest you get 512mb RAM. While 256mb will cut it, it might not be as smooth of an experience as you'd like, especially when using garageband.

As for the hard drive, it all depends on what you plan on doing. 40GB is probably more than enough for the average user, who just browses the web and sends a few emails.

As for the screen, i'm sorry to say that its a pretty crappy shadow mask CRT. While I must admit, the screen is the brightest i've ever, with some really awesome color reproduction, its still marred by horrible dot pitch, especially around the edges. The refresh rate offerings isn't all that great either - I can't even use its max resolution of 1280x960, because its limited to 72hz refresh, which hurts my eyes too much. Turning the resolution down one notch helps a lot.

Still, the eMac is a great bargain!
 
I would have Apple upgrade the 256 to 512 and then grab another 512 from someone else (crucial, kingston - sometimes has better prices, transintl, and who knows what other companies in the UK...)

You definitely need the bigger HD if you're going to be playing with media.

As far as the monitor goes, is there any chance you can check it out in person? 72 hz works just fine for my eyes but yours may be different.
 
I just bought one of the new eMacs and strongly advise getting the extra memory. I picked up 2 512's to max the thing out and it works very well. I also have the 80 GB HD and highly recommend it. Of course, I've got about 30 GB in iTunes, so I really needed the larger option.

If you'd like to buy the 256 stick that came with my eMac, let me know. It's just sitting here.
 
I just got an eMac with 512 and 80 gigs of HD. I would NEVER have purchased it otherwise - looking back it was an incredibly smart decision.

At least to the HD, because you can do RAM later. Go for 160 on the HD if you can :)
 
Jigglelicious said:
As for the screen, i'm sorry to say that its a pretty crappy shadow mask CRT. While I must admit, the screen is the brightest i've ever, with some really awesome color reproduction, its still marred by horrible dot pitch, especially around the edges.

Whats dot pitch? I am a bit anal about screen quality. The CRT on my old 5500 was crap, blurry around the edges, patchy reproduction, and it wasnt even fitted straight. I do hope Apple quality control has improved. Is it a notch above Dells 'value crt' isnt it? Am i going to be put off after using LCD's at work?

I might get the Superdrive model now, found this special offer:
http://promo.euro.apple.com/promo/tes/uk/
 
You may want to consider the 160 GB drive. The 80 GB and 160 GB are both 7200 RPM drives, however the 80 GB drive has 2 MB cache and the 160 GB drive has the 8MB cache.

The 80 GB drive appears to be a Maxtor. The 160 GB drive appears to be a Seagate.

Good Luck.
 
Just got my new eMac (today!) with 1 GB Ram and 80 GB Harddrive and after installing some off my apps and stuff, I only got 56 GB free space left so I would not even consider the 40 GB HD. Actually I kind of regret that I didn’t get the 160 GB . . .

I don’t know if I am doing anything wrong, but the sound volume from the speakers is very very low! Especially in GarageBand. Has anyone else noticed this? I guess I only get about one third the volume on the eMac that I got with my old iMac CRT. When I use headphones the volume is fine.

:confused:
 
The advice I have is get as much machine as you can afford. 512mb RAM is a good start. I have a 40gb HDD in my PB 12" rev. B, and wish I had ordered it with a larger drive. Again I would recommend that you get a unit with the SuperDrive. Never realized how useful it would be.
 
eMac Rocks...honest..

Hey dude,

I bought my eMac last week with the stock 256 meg, 80gig drive and superdrive. It was always hitting the sctatch disk to free up RAM. Bought 1 gig of RAM 3 hours later and it rocks. Does everything I want it to including playing Unreal Tournament 2004 albeit at 800x600 in 16bit, but hey it's not for games it's for doing more productive things on; that's what m ps2 is for. :D
 
geese said:
Whats dot pitch? I am a bit anal about screen quality. The CRT on my old 5500 was crap, blurry around the edges, patchy reproduction, and it wasnt even fitted straight. I do hope Apple quality control has improved. Is it a notch above Dells 'value crt' isnt it? Am i going to be put off after using LCD's at work?

I might get the Superdrive model now, found this special offer:
http://promo.euro.apple.com/promo/tes/uk/


Don't get me wrong, the screen is very nice for what it is. The tube is flat (well, almost), and Apple places this very shiny glass in front of the actual CRT, which makes the screen look *very* classy. The screen is bright (even on the lowest brightness setting), and the colors are rich and vivid. The whites on this monitor are the best i've seen yet from any CRT. However, its not perfect...

Because there are no controls other than what Apple gives you in OSX, there is no way to get rid of the moire pattern, which can sometimes be very pronounced. The dot pitch is sorta like the density of pixels on the screen. A good trinitron or diamondtron has a uniform density. However, the shadow mask has a lower density along the edges compared to the center, which makes thing look a little odd off to the sides. Its mostly noticeable with text. Also, the shadow mask itself is somewhat visible, the actual "grid" pattern of the screen. Its best seen in pictures, and these are the best I could find online.
http://218.223.20.17/em20.html

This compares the eMac screen to an old iMac G3 screen. Notice how the iMac is smooth, while the eMac's picture has a funny grainy pattern. Now, its not THAT noticeable in person, since those pictures are zoomed in, but it is there. I know i'm making the screen sound really bad, but overall i'm quite happy with it.

And to the person who mentioned the volume of the built in speakers - yes, mines are VERY low too, especially compared to my iMac G3, which is easily 2 or 3 times louder. My guess is that Apple purposely lowered the max volume on these speakers, since turning them too high causes ripples along the screen.
 
geese said:
Whats dot pitch? I am a bit anal about screen quality. The CRT on my old 5500 was crap, blurry around the edges, patchy reproduction, and it wasnt even fitted straight. I do hope Apple quality control has improved. Is it a notch above Dells 'value crt' isnt it? Am i going to be put off after using LCD's at work?
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It is possible. Given the updates to the eMac, I have been toying with getting a eMac with 1gb RAM, since it would only be double the cost of the 1gb memory module for my PB 12" rev. B.

Went and looked at the eMac screen. It was nice, but did not have the crispness that I have come use to with my PB or my Windoze system with a Viewsonic VA520. If I do decide on a desktop it will probably be the next revision of the iMac (as long as they don't make it headless).
 
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