Expected Battery Health

[Pagemakers]

What should the expected battery health of an original Apple Watch Series 4 be?

Sold my old one on eBay and there seems to be some dispute.

 

[Howard2k]

It should be whatever it is. Batteries degrade at different rates and people use them in different ways.

Did you misrepresent the battery health?

 

[Kottu]

People do change battery once the health reached below 80%. You can't say any expected battery health. It all depends how you use.

 

[strayts]

To be fair, watchOS 10 is pretty horrific on battery life on our older devices (series 5 here). I was able to improve it by turning off weather complications and removing the weather app from the Smart Stack. As far as what the expected battery health should be in terms of percentage, the buyer should realize that unless you specifically noted what the % is, the deal is done.

 

[Pagemakers]

I didn’t state battery health and he didn’t ask. It was 4% better than the series 5 I sold to somebody else at the same time and that was a year newer.

All I’m asking is a watch series 4 that has been put on your arm every day and maybe done a workout twice a week, what should it expected health to be? 100% ish, 90% ish, 80% ish? I appreciate it’s in imprecise science but there must be round-about stats.m

It’s a 4 year old watch.

 

[jz0309]

I didn’t state battery health and he didn’t ask. It was 4% better than the series 5 I sold to somebody else at the same time and that was a year newer.

All I’m asking is a watch series 4 that has been put on your arm every day and maybe done a workout twice a week, what should it expected health to be? 100% ish, 90% ish, 80% ish? I appreciate it’s in imprecise science but there must be round-about stats.m

It’s a 4 year old watch.

Anywhere between 0 and 100
There are plenty threads here that talk about battery health, way too many different use cases to come up with a statistically valid approximation

 

[Mercenary]

I didn’t state battery health and he didn’t ask. It was 4% better than the series 5 I sold to somebody else at the same time and that was a year newer.

All I’m asking is a watch series 4 that has been put on your arm every day and maybe done a workout twice a week, what should it expected health to be? 100% ish, 90% ish, 80% ish? I appreciate it’s in imprecise science but there must be round-about stats.m

It’s a 4 year old watch.

If they didn’t ask and it’s important to them then it’s on them. You didn’t state it and that’s fine. You didn’t mislead anyone.

They are just trying to claim they were missold to get a refund. Don’t do it n

 

[Bichon]

I didn’t state battery health and he didn’t ask. It was 4% better than the series 5 I sold to somebody else at the same time and that was a year newer.

You still didn't say what the battery health was. If it was under 80%, the watch would show "Battery service recommended" and that is something I definitely would have disclosed that in the eBay listing, both to be fair to the buyer and to avoid receiving negative feedback.

 

[Howard2k]

You still didn't say what the battery health was. If it was under 80%, the watch would show "Battery service recommended" and that is something I definitely would have disclosed that in the eBay listing, both to be fair to the buyer and to avoid receiving negative feedback.

Different strokes for different folks.

I would have disclosed it in my ad too, but as the buyer I also see the onus being on me to ask. As a buyer, I would have asked what the battery life was - 100%. If I don't ask, and I buy it without asking, then I take my chances.

Would I expect an S4 to have 100% battery life? No. What about 90%? No. 80%? Perhaps. Regardless, if I'm buying an S4 I'd expect to be replacing the battery at some point; and I'd be pleasantly surprised to see it arrive with >85%.

My view is that the buyer should have asked.

 

[Pagemakers]

The watch 4 had 77%. Ironically my older 5 that was sold privately and at the same time had 73%.

77% for a 4 year old watch is “normal” in my opinion. It required daily charging but it did when it was new out of the box!

 

[Howard2k]

The watch 4 had 77%. Ironically my older 5 that was sold privately and at the same time had 73%.

77% for a 4 year old watch is “normal” in my opinion. It required daily charging but it did when it was new out of the box!

Yeah that sounds normal to me too.

 

[Kottu]

As a buyer he should have asked about battery percent but sometimes when people find a device at bargain price in auction, they may not even think about looking for details. As battery health was below 77%, as a seller you also should have mentioned. It is like when you sell a car, you mention about miles it has covered. Check with Ebay about it.

 

[T4t3r]

Ultimately ebay will almost always side with the buyer. I agree that the buyer should've asked, but you also could've protected yourself a little bit from this situation by just including it in the listing, especially since apple includes "service recommended" on the health screen when it's below 80%. This is doubly so if your listing said anything about "lasts all day!" or anything with that verbiage, the buyer can pretty easily dispute that by claiming it doesn't last very long and include the "service battery" screen as evidence.

Not always fair but this is what ebay has become and is a roll of the dice for sellers. Assume every buyer is less than scrupulous.