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iGav

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man this is wild... I hope ths doesn't mean that rich disfigured people will start putting out contracts on handsome young devils like myself.... heheheh!!

Rinky dink link....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3259773.stm


or full story below...

urgeons appear to be gearing up to carry out the world's first face transplant.

British doctors say they have been approached by 10 patients keen to find out more about the procedure.

Surgeons in France and the United States say they are now ready to graft the face of a dead person on to someone who has been facially disfigured.

However, British doctors say they need public support before they will carry out the highly controversial procedure.

Medical advance

The prospect of transplanting a face from a dead person to another living person was first raised by plastic surgeons one year ago.

Speaking at the time, Peter Butler, a plastic surgeon at London's Royal Free Hospital, told a conference that the procedure would be possible within months.

There are many moral, ethical and psychological issues which need to be debated before anyone has surgery Spokeswoman, Royal Free Hospital

Surgeons now say they have reached the point where they could carry out the operation.

They say improvements in anti-rejection drugs now make it possible.

The technique would involve removing facial muscles and skin from a dead donor and placing them on another person.

Surgeons have acknowledged that such a procedure raises major moral, ethical and psychological issues.

The Royal College of Surgeons of England is expected to publish a report on face transplants next week. Surgeons hope it will help to spark a public debate.

The Royal Free Hospital insisted that its doctors would not carry out the procedure until the issues were debated.

"While Peter Butler and his team are confident they have overcome the technical hurdles to this procedure, there are many moral, ethical and psychological issues which need to be debated before anyone has surgery," a spokeswoman said.

"The publication of the Royal College of Surgeons' report on the issue of face transplantation, which is due soon, is the first step in this important process."

Patient requests

The hospital revealed that doctors had received requests for information from patients.

"The team has had requests for information from 10 people from all over the world but none has been assessed in any way," said the spokeswoman.

"Once a serious debate has taken place and resolved the issues outlined above, the question of ethical approval can be addressed and if that is forthcoming potential patients' suitability for surgery can be assessed."

The Royal College of Surgeons report is expected to examine the physical and psychological risks of face transplants.

"The Royal College of Surgeons set up a working party to look at the various issues that would need to be considered if such a procedure were to take place - not only the surgical and medical aspects of such an operation but also the psychological and ethical aspects," the college said in a statement.

The report will be published ahead of a debate at the Science Museum, on Wednesday next week.

It will be addressed by John Barker, a leading plastic surgeon from the University of Louisiana. His team is expected to be the first to carry out a face transplant if it receives regulatory approval.

However, another team in France have also applied for ethical approval to carry out the operation.
 
Ok this is pretty creepy. How would the family of the deceased handle seeing their loved one's face on someone else?!

I don't know. This happened in that bad movie Face Off, I don't think it's right. :(
 
Originally posted by eyelikeart
Ok this is pretty creepy. How would the family of the deceased handle seeing their loved one's face on someone else?!

I don't know. This happened in that bad movie Face Off, I don't think it's right. :(

I need to buy one of these and escape quickly now.
 
I would be against this type of transplant. In reality this occuring was only a matter of time. With the vanity of aging Baby Boomers and an increase in disposable income, they can now realize the look of youth.
 
Originally posted by Santiago
I doubt the end result would look exactly like the 'face donor' in any case, given that the underlying skull would be different.

With the abilities of plastic surgeons today, I have no doubt but that the similarity would be striking. They can reshape bone using bone from other parts of the body. Or even plastic prosthetics.
 
Originally posted by eyelikeart
Ok this is pretty creepy. How would the family of the deceased handle seeing their loved one's face on someone else?!

I don't know. This happened in that bad movie Face Off, I don't think it's right. :(

I completely agree with you.

How would this person, say who was a burn victim for a long time, convey to people that the man that he looks like is actually the original person :rolleyes: It seems like a bad path to follow down. What is the next step? Killing those with a pretty face? Pretty people farms? Drive-by Killings of NY Models?

It is a sad sad day.
 
Put Balmers face on Gates and cap him ... 2 birds with one stone :D

maybe this does have a practical application :D
 
Originally posted by wdlove
With the vanity of aging Baby Boomers and an increase in disposable income, they can now realize the look of youth.

Don't forget those that are disfigured by an accident or a fire. I'm sure they would be happy to receive a face transplant... It's not all about vanity.
 
I don't think it is as trivial as the media has made it seem. Most likely, along with the transplant, you would have to take immuno-suppressants so your new face doesn't reject you.
 
What call my attention is how the writer turned the same information back and forward over and over just to make more lines in the redaction. I mean, it touches the "Moral and Piscological" theme 5 times, the article is repeating itself over and over again.

how cheap.
 
Pretty people farms......? Hmmmm.... Well, as long as it's not a genocide of Jews or Africans, I suppose we're all right. ;)

I just hope this means we get rid of Julia Roberts once and for all. As long as the person that gets her face doesn't have the same hideous personality.
 
I support this proceedure. It would enable those who do not live normal lives already because of some horrible disfigurement to have at least a chance at a normal life. There may be good reasons to accuse people or society in general of being obsessed by appearance but this should not prevent people from trying to avoid social stigma.
 
The only way I can see this as beneficial to the donor's family would be if the transplant came from another region of the country. It would be horrific for anyone to endure seeing their dearly departed's likeness walking around.

One thing I'd like to know though. Say if someone donates their face, how does their funeral work if they aren't getting cremated?
 
But how similar would your face look on someone else? Sure you would have the same moles and dimples, but your eyes would be different, your nose size would be different. They probably would cut the facial skin to fit tight, so it would be like you had a facelift.

I would have to see one, but I am not certain that the recipient would look all that similar to the donor.
 
I wonder if this technology will be worked into either season 3 or season 4 of 24??

Remember in season 1, Gains had that guy undergo plastic surgery to look like the photographer. If the directors want to bring back an old character they regret killing off in a previous season, this would be a great way of doing it.

SPOILER IF YOU ARE STILL WANT TO SEE THE END OF SEASON 1:

It would be crazy if Jack's enemies were to go after him by putting Teri's face onto one of their agents. Whoa, scaaarrrry! ;)
 
Originally posted by crenz
Don't forget those that are disfigured by an accident or a fire. I'm sure they would be happy to receive a face transplant... It's not all about vanity.

I agree that those disfigured through an accident, fire, or cancer would greatly benefit from this technology. My fear is that it will be misused. An example is the use of growth hormone. It was meant for those short of stature, for some reason they have a lack of the hormone. Now those with money that want to be taller are requesting it from their doctor.
 
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