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In yet another deeper push into video, Facebook today is rolling out a new update to its Messenger app [Direct Link] that adds a new live video button into every chat window. When used, Facebook users will begin live streaming in a small pop-up window with sound turned off by default, allowing them to keep texting with the person on the other end while sharing visual details of their location that might be easier through video rather than simple text.

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Facebook is calling the new feature "Instant Video," and says it represents "a reflection of the ubiquity of video" that's expected in most messaging apps nowadays. Rather than a full-on video chatting experience, the social network hopes for Instant Video to be a companion to traditional texting.
Instant Video is a reflection of the ubiquity of video -- we simply expect to have that ability in real-time, all the time. With Instant Video, you can bring your conversations to life in the most authentic way -- seamlessly and instantly. It's perfect for sharing quick moments with friends who aren't right by your side or making your conversations richer by seeing each other face-to-face when you are messaging.

Sometimes you want to ask a friend's opinion on a pair of shoes you want to buy, weigh in on what ice cream flavor they should bring home, or just want to see your BFF's reaction to your witty message when you're in a place where you can't actually talk live.
To start an Instant Video conversation, there will be a new video icon in the top right corner of each Messenger conversation. This will bring up the live stream of real-time video, and the app supports both the front-facing and rear-facing cameras of a smartphone. On the other side of the conversation, a friend can continue watching the live stream and turn on audio, or respond with a stream of their own camera for you to see.

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Facebook sees the new update as another example of its attempt "to solve real problems for real people." Over the past few weeks, the company has tested autoplay videos with sound in its iOS app, launched a video-focused app for teenagers, and began a slow implementation of MSQRD in select countries. Although Instant Video is only for Messenger, it'll have a large install base to test it out since the separate instant messaging app celebrated a milestone of one billion monthly active users over the summer.

Article Link: Facebook Introduces Live Streaming 'Instant Video' Feature in Messenger App
 
We already have FaceTime, snapchat, Marco Polo, Skype. Do we really need another one ?
They found something that hasn't been done yet: Texting while looking at a silent video of the person you're texting. Facebook's motto is "Throw everything against the wall and see what sticks, because we're an aging social media platform that is quickly losing relevance with the kids and we don't understand why." When the simple answer is that kids don't want to be on a social media platform where their parents are, they want to live in the moment and don't want a permanent record of everything they've ever done on the internet which can be used against them in every job interview for the rest of their life. We've hired many people over others at my work because of their stupid social media presence. Facebook is the social media platform of their parents. They want something to call their own, that only they understand, that easily connects them to all the people they meet—both online and off—while trying to keep up with their life, which is even busier than when I was a teenager 10 years ago. Something that is low commitment, but high on engagement when they want it. They don't have time for Facebook, don't want to be on Facebook, and that scares the hell out of Facebook so they come up with crap like this to seem relevant.
 
Seems like there's a lot of hate for this. I personally hate Facebook and deleted the app off my phone. However, Messenger is brilliant. Such a better experience especially in group chats than Apple's stock Message app. iOS 10 may change that though...

Plus, Messenger is also web based which is an enormous advantage. I can chat in my browser during work. Doubt Apple will make their Messages app do that, they always seem so behind with stuff like this.
 
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This actually seems useful - Thinking of finding people at an event or party, just doing it for fun, etc. There are a lot of people I know who are only using Facebook messenger to communicate for better or for worse. but that's just my humble opinion! I know there are loads of other options, but it's always easier to stay in app, and the silent part if great.
 
They found something that hasn't been done yet: Texting while looking at a silent video of the person you're texting. Facebook's motto is "Throw everything against the wall and see what sticks, because we're an aging social media platform that is quickly losing relevance with the kids and we don't understand why." When the simple answer is that kids don't want to be on a social media platform where their parents are, they want to live in the moment and don't want a permanent record of everything they've ever done on the internet which can be used against them in every job interview for the rest of their life. We've hired many people over others at my work because of their stupid social media presence. Facebook is the social media platform of their parents. They want something to call their own, that only they understand, that easily connects them to all the people they meet—both online and off—while trying to keep up with their life, which is even busier than when I was a teenager 10 years ago. Something that is low commitment, but high on engagement when they want it. They don't have time for Facebook, don't want to be on Facebook, and that scares the hell out of Facebook so they come up with crap like this to seem relevant.

Completely agree. Facebook has a shelf life of about a dozen years before the decline begins.
 
is this live for anyone yet?

my app is up to date and do not see this available when chatting with someone.

i also dont have the new home page design that was rolled out months ago.
 
This actually seems useful - Thinking of finding people at an event or party, just doing it for fun, etc. There are a lot of people I know who are only using Facebook messenger to communicate for better or for worse. but that's just my humble opinion! I know there are loads of other options, but it's always easier to stay in app, and the silent part if great.
But if someone doesn't like Facebook (for whatever reason, or no reason) or doesn't care about using this or something like that then this is just horrible and useless and no one should have have access to such a feature or any other feature that they themselves don't see as useful or coming from a company that they support (for whatever reason, or no reason).
 
is this live for anyone yet?

my app is up to date and do not see this available when chatting with someone.

i also dont have the new home page design that was rolled out months ago.
My case, exactly ;)
 
They found something that hasn't been done yet: Texting while looking at a silent video of the person you're texting. Facebook's motto is "Throw everything against the wall and see what sticks, because we're an aging social media platform that is quickly losing relevance with the kids and we don't understand why." When the simple answer is that kids don't want to be on a social media platform where their parents are, they want to live in the moment and don't want a permanent record of everything they've ever done on the internet which can be used against them in every job interview for the rest of their life. We've hired many people over others at my work because of their stupid social media presence. Facebook is the social media platform of their parents. They want something to call their own, that only they understand, that easily connects them to all the people they meet—both online and off—while trying to keep up with their life, which is even busier than when I was a teenager 10 years ago. Something that is low commitment, but high on engagement when they want it. They don't have time for Facebook, don't want to be on Facebook, and that scares the hell out of Facebook so they come up with crap like this to seem relevant.
This doesn't make sense. Many of these kids use WhatsApp and their parents are on those too. If your number is on your CV/resume and it's the same for your daily WhatsApp, businesses can check out your profile pic and status from that too.


This is another reason why Facebook and Messenger are now two separate apps.


Businesses can't see what you're up to in Facebook Messenger.
 
This doesn't make sense. Many of these kids use WhatsApp and their parents are on those too. If your number is on your CV/resume and it's the same for your daily WhatsApp, businesses can check out your profile pic and status from that too.


This is another reason why Facebook and Messenger are now two separate apps.


Businesses can't see what you're up to in Facebook Messenger.
How would businesses see what you are up to in Facebook Messenger whether or not it's a separate app?
 
How would businesses see what you are up to in Facebook Messenger whether or not it's a separate app?
While we are intelligent and know this isn't true, many people aren't. People still think whatever's posted in the Facebook app could be shown public.
 
While we are intelligent and know this isn't true, many people aren't. People still think whatever's posted in the Facebook app could be shown public.
Messenger interactions aren't posted on Facebook. Don't think many really had/have that kind of confusion about it.
 
Messenger interactions aren't posted on Facebook. Don't think many really had/have that kind of confusion about it.
It kinda has though, as I have to keep telling my friends Messenger is separate (well almost) from Facebook. That tells you how confused they are.

Facebook wants Messenger to be separate, like Instagram. If Messenger becomes part of the FB app again, not only the main app becomes bulky and cluttered, but Facebook's goal of making Messenger as a separate entity will not work. Not to mention they have a Messenger team now, that wants to make their updates and features (such as this one) to the app and not get held back by the main Facebook app team.
 
It kinda has though, as I have to keep telling my friends Messenger is separate (well almost) from Facebook. That tells you how confused they are.

Facebook wants Messenger to be separate, like Instagram. If Messenger becomes part of the FB app again, not only the main app becomes bulky and cluttered, but Facebook's goal of making Messenger as a separate entity will not work. Not to mention they have a Messenger team now, that wants to make their updates and features (such as this one) to the app and not get held back by the main Facebook app team.
There are certainly various reasons to have Messenger as a separate app. I can't say from all the discussions on the topic (and there has certainly been quite a few around these parts) that the reasoning of people thinking that their messages are posted on Facebook when they use messenger within it has really come up. (In fact most of the arguments from different people have been against it being pulled out of the Facebook app.)
 
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