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Rafterman

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Maybe I misunderstood the keynote, but FaceID was supposed to work at higher angles, like siting on a desk. But I don't see one bit of improvement, I still have to stare down from above when the iPhone is on a desk.
 
Maybe I misunderstood the keynote, but FaceID was supposed to work at higher angles, like siting on a desk. But I don't see one bit of improvement, I still have to stare down from above when the iPhone is on a desk.

Heard the same thing and my current observations are in agreement with your comments . 11 Pro on 13.1
 
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I have to say that FaceID works better for me. When my 11 is in the craddle on the dashboard in my car it actually unlocks, unlike XR. That was experience yesterday. We will see if it will continue moving forward.
 
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Maybe I misunderstood the keynote, but FaceID was supposed to work at higher angles, like siting on a desk. But I don't see one bit of improvement, I still have to stare down from above when the iPhone is on a desk.

It's just referring to the fact that the selfie camera is now wider angle. Therefore theoretically you could be a bit more to the side and still unlock your phone. Don't know why you would ever want that though.

Working from a table is still not possible because that's angle as in "tilt", not angle as in "field of view".

Summary: just more marketing that means nothing in practice.
 
I’ve noticed I don’t have to lean as much over it when it’s on my desk at work, it’s not massively wider but it’s definitely wider angle.
 
Maybe I misunderstood the keynote, but FaceID was supposed to work at higher angles, like siting on a desk. But I don't see one bit of improvement, I still have to stare down from above when the iPhone is on a desk.

The only thing mentioned is the speed increase. The angle bit was a made up expectation from some of the YouTube content creators.
 
I have noted both a faster and increased angle unlock capability for Face ID on my 11 Pro Max over previous XS Max.

something to try is toggle off the attention feature. I have had it off for half a year and it improves ability to unlock.

Not having requirement for phone to see your eyes looking at it means unlock occurs for me at least with somewhat more acute angles.
 
The only thing mentioned is the speed increase. The angle bit was a made up expectation from some of the YouTube content creators.
In my case, angles have improved. Before my phone would not unlock when mounted in the cradle on the dashboard in my car, had to punch in pin. Now it in unlocks with just FaceID. So maybe improvement of sensors is minor or maybe software improved, but in my case I notice improvment.
 
Works much better on the 11 Pro than the X. Compared side by side with both on iOS13. The Pro recognizes from farther away and flatter angles. It looks like it uses a more sophisticated system than the X. It’s not a night-and-day difference but it’s tangible.
 
Coming from the X, it seems much faster but I agree I’m not seeing any improved angle capabilities.
 
It's a bit faster stock vs the X, but animations still slow it down

Compared to my jb iPhone X (auto unlock x, speed up animations tweaks), my iPhone X still unlocks faster overall

Where i've noted the difference the most has been autofilling passwords. Almost instant
 
Maybe I misunderstood the keynote, but FaceID was supposed to work at higher angles, like siting on a desk. But I don't see one bit of improvement, I still have to stare down from above when the iPhone is on a desk.
Agree. It does seem to have more range, and maybe is a little faster than the speed given with just 13. It seems to detect something at higher angles, but always fails at the fringes. I need to be at about the same angle as before to get a match.
 
Yeah, I should have been more specific and said it uses the framework of the selfie cam, but not the lens itself. I was in a hurry and too glib.

You can actually cover the selfie cam and Face ID will still work

My impression was that the poster you replied to was wondering if the the FaceTime camera itself was the reason faceid worked, some androids use their selfie cameras for face authentication unlocking so I can see where the question comes from
 
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