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First Qi2 Wireless Chargers Coming Soon

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The first wireless chargers that support the new Qi2 charging standard are set to launch in time for the holiday season, according to an announcement shared today by the Wireless Power Consortium (WPC).

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Announced earlier this year, Qi2 is a next-generation Qi charging technology that incorporates a Magnetic Power Profile. Qi2 devices will work like Apple's MagSafe feature, using magnets for alignment and speedier charging.

The iPhone 15 models are the first of Apple's smartphones that support the Qi2 standard. More than 100 Qi2 device are in testing, according to the WPC, including chargers from companies like Belkin, Mophie, Anker, and Aircharge.

The Magnetic Power Profile was designed based on MagSafe contributions from Apple, and it is being combined with the new Extended Power Profile (EPP) to form what is considered "Qi2."

Qi2 is meant to ensure that phones and other battery-powered mobile products are perfectly aligned with chargers for improved energy efficiency and faster charging. It will allow for new accessories that would not be chargeable wirelessly using existing flat surface-to-flat surface devices.

Qi2 chargers that have already been announced promise to charge devices at up to 15W, but it is not yet clear if Apple's iPhone 15 models will support faster wireless charging with Qi2 accessories. Apple's technical specifications page for the iPhone 15 says that the devices support Qi wireless charging "up to 7.5W," with no mention of faster charging.

MagSafe-enabled iPhone 15 models charge at 7.5W on the current Qi standard, and 15W when using Apple's MagSafe chargers.

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I thought when Apple basically donated the specifications for MagSafe to the Qi Consortium to make Qi2 that Qi2 chargers would work at 15W with any iPhone that supports MagSafe. This makes it sound like the iPhone 12 to 14 series are specifically authenticating with the charger to make sure it is Apple-made or MFi before allowing 15W -- that is a major disappointment.

I was looking forward to picking up several Qi2 charging pucks for all the iPhones in our house, but now that I am hearing they are limited to 7.5W, I am going to have to rethink that.
 
BC2009 said:
I thought when Apple basically donated the specifications for MagSafe to the Qi Consortium to make Qi2 that Qi2 chargers would work at 15W with any iPhone that supports MagSafe. This makes it sound like the iPhone 12 to 14 series are specifically authenticating with the charger to make sure it is Apple-made or MFi before allowing 15W -- that is a major disappointment.
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I’m guessing it’s like with anything… if a consortium is doing it, they’ve got to have ALL the members sign on to it. Any member could kneecap a particular feature (like the USB-IF members lobbying against the requirement to put power/data designators on all cables) for whatever reason. We should see the difference in the teardowns. It could be as simple as them not wanting to include an entire ring and, instead, the Qi2 standard uses a series of arcs.
 
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I’m guessing it’s like with anything… if a consortium is doing it, they’ve got to have ALL the members sign on to it. Any member could kneecap a particular feature (like the USB-IF members lobbying against the requirement to put power/data designators on all cables) for whatever reason. We should see the difference in the teardowns. It could be as simple as them not wanting to include an entire ring and, instead, the Qi2 standard uses a series of arcs.
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That explains a lot about type-C cables...
 
"Up to 7.5W?" Yay. Compared to 35W via USB-C for my iPhone 15.

Wireless charging for my iPhone 15 is *so much* slower than wired that I have essentially given up on using my wireless charging stand.
 
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"Up to 7.5W?" Yay. Compared to 35W via USB-C for my iPhone 15.

Wireless charging for my iPhone 15 is *so much* slower than wired that I have essentially given up on using my wireless charging stand.
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If your using Apples MagSafe charger then it's already 15w.
 
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"Up to 7.5W?" Yay. Compared to 35W via USB-C for my iPhone 15.

Wireless charging for my iPhone 15 is *so much* slower than wired that I have essentially given up on using my wireless charging stand.
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What is a typical scenario for you?

If you have your charger at your bedside, it doesn't need to be quick-charging. Same as if you've got it at your work desk.

Quick-charging reduces the battery life. That a fact, but so does the heat of inefficient wireless charging, and fast-charging wirelessly would be even worse.
 
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Quick-charging reduces the battery life. That a fact, but so does the heat of inefficient wireless charging, and fast-charging wirelessly would be even worse.
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modern rechargeables (not incl most AAs) have microprocessors in the to ameliorate or avoid this issue. And the inductor for wireless charging doesn’t have to be close to the battery (although with an iphone or watch everything is next to the battery) So yeah, heat.
 
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BC2009 said:
I thought when Apple basically donated the specifications for MagSafe to the Qi Consortium to make Qi2 that Qi2 chargers would work at 15W with any iPhone that supports MagSafe. This makes it sound like the iPhone 12 to 14 series are specifically authenticating with the charger to make sure it is Apple-made or MFi before allowing 15W -- that is a major disappointment.

I was looking forward to picking up several Qi2 charging pucks for all the iPhones in our house, but now that I am hearing they are limited to 7.5W, I am going to have to rethink that.
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According to The Verge, iPhones will charge at 15w.
 
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Qi2 chargers that have already been announced promise to charge devices at up to 15W, but it is not yet clear if Apple's iPhone 15 models will support faster wireless charging with Qi2 accessories. Apple's technical specifications page for the iPhone 15 says that the devices support Qi wireless charging "up to 7.5W," with no mention of faster charging.
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Fine by me. I care more about the magnetic alignment than the raw charging speed overnight or for many hours when I'm at my desk.

What I want is to have a *weak* magnet because I want the charger staying put when I pick up the phone. Not sure if Qi2 is gonna do this or not. If not, I guess I'll be sticking with my slow, cheap first-gen Qi chargers.
 
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Yawn. Call me when it supports data transfer.
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Why would want that kind of data transfer when non-magnetic forms of data transfer already exists?

Or do you mean to combine both power and data protocols into one, but then you'd still have to have your device touching something (e.g., puck) for the data transfer to happen when you can already do this wirelessly without requirement of touching something.
 
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The first wireless chargers that support the new Qi2 charging standard are set to launch in time for the holiday season, according to an announcement shared today by the Wireless Power Consortium (WPC).

magsafe-blue-2.jpg

Announced earlier this year, Qi2 is a next-generation Qi charging technology that incorporates a Magnetic Power Profile. Qi2 devices will work like Apple's MagSafe feature, using magnets for alignment and speedier charging.

The iPhone 15 models are the first of Apple's smartphones that support the Qi2 standard. More than 100 Qi2 device are in testing, according to the WPC, including chargers from companies like Belkin, Mophie, Anker, and Aircharge.

The Magnetic Power Profile was designed based on MagSafe contributions from Apple, and it is being combined with the new Extended Power Profile (EPP) to form what is considered "Qi2."

Qi2 is meant to ensure that phones and other battery-powered mobile products are perfectly aligned with chargers for improved energy efficiency and faster charging. It will allow for new accessories that would not be chargeable wirelessly using existing flat surface-to-flat surface devices.

Qi2 chargers that have already been announced promise to charge devices at up to 15W, but it is not yet clear if Apple's iPhone 15 models will support faster wireless charging with Qi2 accessories. Apple's technical specifications page for the iPhone 15 says that the devices support Qi wireless charging "up to 7.5W," with no mention of faster charging.

MagSafe-enabled iPhone 15 models charge at 7.5W on the current Qi standard, and 15W when using Apple's MagSafe chargers.

Article Link: First Qi2 Wireless Chargers Coming Soon
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Apple… please don’t screw us over with this

Signed,
Humanity
 
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