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I am an Apple nut, I own so many Apple Products, and that is because of so many positive experiences. I typically upgrade my iPhone, Apple Watch, and iPad Pro when they update them. My experiences are typically positive, and any minor shortcomings are typically fixed with an update fairly quickly.

This is the first time I am disappointed with the performance on an upgrade. I ordered a Space Black Series 5 Titanium to see how I will like the finish, I should be getting it Thursday. In the meantime, I purchased the Space Black SS in store Friday so I could see which finish I prefer. Transfers were nice and fast, and I initially liked the Always on. I am really hoping these are WatchOS bugs, but outside of the Always on feature, I am feeling this watch is a bit of a downgrade from Series 4.

First thing I noticed is the battery life is not as good as Series 4. It's meeting the advertised 18 hours, but Series 4 would easily get me a day and a half no problem from the very beginning. I could still chalk it up by the screen being on and new battery, jury still out on this one.

2nd thing I noticed is the screen response from dim to bright is laggy. I wouldn't mind that, but the waking up and responses are slow. An example is someone was calling me, I felt the vibration from my iPhone, there was a delay to feeling it on my wrist. I always look at my watch to see who's calling, when I raised my wrist, it was still showing the time. I had to tap on the screen twice to get it to properly wake up and show who's calling, and a second later caller ID showed.

It also seems like it is going into such a deep low power that my text and email notifications are vibrate alerting me on the phone, and then a few minutes later push to the watch where I usually don't get any notification on my phone at all.

I let the battery go from yesterday afternoon around 12 noon off the charger to 10% battery this morning around 9:30 and put it on the charger. Every other Apple Watch I had charges to full in less than an hour, 2 hours in I am now at 89%.

On Thursday when I get the Titanium, I am considering unpairing and returning the Space Black Stainless. I will see how the Space Black Titanium performs. If I get the same results, I may just keep my Series 4 for another year and see what they do with Series 6 next year.

I'm not seeing a lot of complaints, so I am hoping this is an exception, I will post updates when I get the new one.
 
I’m guessing that Apple never updated the 18 hour estimate on the Series 4 because it knew that the always-on feature in the Series 5 reduce the battery life back to the 18 hour mark.
 
I still have a series 4, didn’t upgrade this time as I read the series 5 has all the same components of the 4. The only thing in the 5 that was updated is the new screen tech that allows for always on.

With that said, I can tell you since installing WatchOS 6 last Thursday I’ve noticed about a 20% hit to my battery level at the end of the day on my 4. The new OS is definitely draining the battery faster than before.
 
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I am an Apple nut, I own so many Apple Products, and that is because of so many positive experiences. I typically upgrade my iPhone, Apple Watch, and iPad Pro when they update them. My experiences are typically positive, and any minor shortcomings are typically fixed with an update fairly quickly.

This is the first time I am disappointed with the performance on an upgrade. I ordered a Space Black Series 5 Titanium to see how I will like the finish, I should be getting it Thursday. In the meantime, I purchased the Space Black SS in store Friday so I could see which finish I prefer. Transfers were nice and fast, and I initially liked the Always on. I am really hoping these are WatchOS bugs, but outside of the Always on feature, I am feeling this watch is a bit of a downgrade from Series 4.

First thing I noticed is the battery life is not as good as Series 4. It's meeting the advertised 18 hours, but Series 4 would easily get me a day and a half no problem from the very beginning. I could still chalk it up by the screen being on and new battery, jury still out on this one.

2nd thing I noticed is the screen response from dim to bright is laggy. I wouldn't mind that, but the waking up and responses are slow. An example is someone was calling me, I felt the vibration from my iPhone, there was a delay to feeling it on my wrist. I always look at my watch to see who's calling, when I raised my wrist, it was still showing the time. I had to tap on the screen twice to get it to properly wake up and show who's calling, and a second later caller ID showed.

It also seems like it is going into such a deep low power that my text and email notifications are vibrate alerting me on the phone, and then a few minutes later push to the watch where I usually don't get any notification on my phone at all.

I let the battery go from yesterday afternoon around 12 noon off the charger to 10% battery this morning around 9:30 and put it on the charger. Every other Apple Watch I had charges to full in less than an hour, 2 hours in I am now at 89%.

On Thursday when I get the Titanium, I am considering unpairing and returning the Space Black Stainless. I will see how the Space Black Titanium performs. If I get the same results, I may just keep my Series 4 for another year and see what they do with Series 6 next year.

I'm not seeing a lot of complaints, so I am hoping this is an exception, I will post updates when I get the new one.

I have exactly the same feeling. When I read you post I felt you read my mind:)

The only difference I have SBTi on my wrist and unpacked SBSS in my car. Just think if I need to kill my time to unpack, reset, reboot, fight with Att connection problems and at the end with a very high probability “send Ti to Tim” :)

I want to say that battery life is really bad.

Same story with phone call delays.

Sundays I try to stay away from exercising and made only 1 hour on my road bike(cannot listen to the music on the toad, so didn’t stream) and walked around 4 miles. I had 18 percent at the end of the day.
I had 20-30% after way more active days streaming music on my watch.
I see no scratches on my SBTi, but people say that they saw them in Apple stores.

BTW: I like my new 11 Pro Max 512. Battery life, speed, camera, finish. I cannot say anything bad about it. I like it more than my XS Max 512 and Note 10+(i like note screen better, but hate android more)

English is my 4th language and I’m sorry about some grammar mistakes here.
 
Mickey doesn't talk for me anymore either which is why I came on this forum today to search out an answer. Not sure if that's a watchOS 6.0 bug, but at least I know now I'm not alone.
 
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I’m irrationally jealous OP that you’re getting notifications for texts/iMessages onto your watch!
I have noticed carrot weather notifications taking a short while to come through on the watch but I’m going to give it until 13.1 is out tomorrow to see if it makes a difference.
Compared to my SS3, it’s noticeably quicker, and I’m enjoying having lots of info to hand with the info graph complication. Battery life (40mm) is about on par with the old one. Put on at 6am this morning and 14 hours later it’s on 26%. Ive done a couple of scribble replies (to WhatsApp messages), ticked off my omnifocus items through the day, and other bits and pieces. I’m keeping a cautious eye on it though over the next few days (especially with the iOS update tomorrow).
 
hopefully an update will help...i had the same issue when i first got my series 4 last year but it eased down.
 
Mine's acting a little different. If my iPhone is unlocked I'm getting the delay on my watch. If my phone is locked I feel my watch vibrate the same time the phone starts ringing. I don't see the option for answer or deny the call until I raise my wrist so the screen brightens.
 
I think some of these are Watch OS 6 bugs. There is already a beta of 6.1, and iOS 13.1 is coming tomorrow. It’s clear that they weren’t ready with the software at launch.
 
My Series 4 had terrible battery life the first few days on watchOS 6 - perhaps give it a few days to see if battery life levels off - I’ve seen reports that the 5 is slightly better than the 4 once the device settles down a bit.
 
Oh I’m not giving up without giving it an honest shot. I do watch reviews and really want to give this a great go around. I’m really hoping it’s simple bug fixes and all is right within my return period.
 
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Battery life is the only concern for me. It goes on my arm at 7AM. With my S3, at 7PM, I still had about 75% of battery left.

With this S5, I had 26% of battery left after 12 hours.

However, I go this yesterday, so last night was the first charge. I will give it a few days and see if that improves.
 
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Looks like the SB Titanium is in Kentucky as we speak, may get it as soon as tomorrow. I am really hoping it is a better experience than this. Last night before bed I charged it up to full. Former Apple Watches are usually at 95% in the morning, this one was at 67%.
 
I am expecting my titanium S5 on Thursday, but I am considering just returning it. AOD is a meh feature for me, and it's bad if it's affecting battery life. I, too, upgrade each year on the latest Apple devices, but this time I'm not feeling the benefits. My aluminum S4 has been a champ, so I will be most likely sticking with it until the next watch release.
 
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Looks like the SB Titanium is in Kentucky as we speak, may get it as soon as tomorrow. I am really hoping it is a better experience than this. Last night before bed I charged it up to full. Former Apple Watches are usually at 95% in the morning, this one was at 67%.


Doug,

I hope your new model gets to you on Wednesday so you can check it out.

I am reading conflicting reports all over the web with some reporting battery life akin to their Series 4 while other report less than stellar findings.

Do you think you may stick with the Series 4 if you new model doesn't display better battery behavior?
 
My Series 4 had terrible battery life the first few days on watchOS 6 - perhaps give it a few days to see if battery life levels off - I’ve seen reports that the 5 is slightly better than the 4 once the device settles down a bit.
This is a common complaint with ever Watch OS, new release complaint and is usually resolved shortly after the release.


SSBS S4: Yesterday I tore through the battery in 6.5 hours. Today 15 hours donning and doing nothing else differently, I am at 69%.
 
Doug,

I hope your new model gets to you on Wednesday so you can check it out.

I am reading conflicting reports all over the web with some reporting battery life akin to their Series 4 while other report less than stellar findings.

Do you think you may stick with the Series 4 if you new model doesn't display better battery behavior?

I’ll always have an Apple Watch. My thought is the Space Black SS is going back this week. If the Space Black Titanium delivers the same results, I’ll probably return that and go back to the Series 4 until whatever seems to be causing bugs gets fixed. I’ve had every generation and never had issues like this. Jury is out.
 
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