And you are basing that on? Having users doesn’t mean the interface is good. I’ve used the Hololens. While the interface isn’t terrible, it still feels like a desktop OS crammed into AR. At the moment Microsoft is the only major player in AR glasses, so it is the default choice, not necessarily the best choice.
I was not 'bashing' on anything ... just stating someone's basic comment that Microsoft didn't do much for VR/AR was very narrow sighted.
Having users does show, especially BIG financially backed users shows that the interface is good. Remember, verbal or written feedback is free, very much so - as Microsoft received in the first 2 iterations. Paying for a product/service costs money and both Microosft and their clients are in business to make money - yes even major hospitals are as well - at least in N.America.
Apple is very careful to make products fully in the Health space, the Watch is their first and only foray ... and until their AR glases launch I'd say their UI is very very basic and doesn't yet come close to the information, power, nor use cases of what Microsoft is doing and has done for 5yrs now in AR with Hololens. You may not agree and that's perfectly fine but please don't take my simplistic reply out of context as bashing someone.
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Seems like both will ultimately compete in different markets.
The Hololens might find a place in very specialised industries such as medicine or the military, but I don’t see it taking off in the consumer market. Just look at the design of the thing. There is no way a consumer is going to be caught dead wearing it in public, so it makes sense that the only way this product can succeed is when the target market doesn’t care about looks.
As for Apple, I expect their future pair of AR glasses to dominate the consumer market. Thanks to the iphone, Apple owns the best customers, who have the disposable income to purchase it. In addition, Apple can leverage the iphone to serve as the “brains” and offload the processing capabilities from the glasses, allowing it to be thinner and lighter and appear more like a normal pair of glasses.
Microsoft has lost mobile, and it shows in the industries they choose to compete in (and the ones that they don’t).
^ here someone understands my original rebuttal on this matter ... thank you
@Abazigal
I fully agree, and I see Microsoft - although loosing the handset business in consumer market, they can sill compete quite well in the consumer software and accessories market - Office 365 (Android & iOS) - soon to be Microsoft 365 & Surface Headset respectively. Their mobile software, although free, monetizes their business licensing division and name brand strength/stronghold.
I've long stated that the replacement for iPhone, give or take 10yrs, will be a new generation of Apple Watch + Apple AR 'Shades' / 'Specs' (registered trademark via moi lol) + voice recognition and gesture recognition (navigation and data input/manipulation). With such a setup mobile carriers would love Apple as much as AT&T did back in 2007 and would montrously boost their iCloud services (account, storage, cloud sharing, etc).
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i do know what hololens is. i got to try it in the microsoft store early on because i signed up for the devkit waitlist. and that’s the EXACT reason why i made my original comment.
BTW Blackberries owned the enterprise market before the iPhone came along.
and i dont see how the idea of cableless iphones suddenly proves microsoft cracked the UI of hololens
That said, Microsoft rules in AR market currently, just not in the gaming market. Their 'Dev kit' and what is actually being used by software designers and coders at other business are completely different, yet their providing a solution that can be used, not just marketing talk. Apple has yet to complete, Google tried in the dev/consumer market very briefly and failed. A Netflix movie Culture Code (?) displayed a great UI in my opinion as a beta to what I would think Apple could come up with.
I know fully well of BlackBerries as I've supported since BBOS 2.x and BES2+ up until BB10 in various industries and all those certifications gone like the dodo bird.
cabless iphones comment I made was specific to a thought I had and this engineer on the same wavelength, that's all. I guess I confused you and a few on that last bit.