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Foxconn insider team will be issuing a massive report on the latest units for iPhone

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This is super great I need to know a few things.

#1. When will Apple TV support 4K HDR10 TV's
#2. Will 2018 MacBook Pro's get 120hz ProMotion like the new iPad Pro ?
#3. Is Apple getting Rid of Touch ID in favor of Facial Recognition just ewww.
#4. Will the IPhone 8 support VR if so how ?

Might as well wait for the iPhone 8s Plus next year because no one will get a new IPhone 8 by November 2017 only a lucky few.
 
Relentless Power said:
iPhone 8s Plus? Where did you come up with this?
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Don't know his thinking or where he got that, but it is highly likely that next year will see a Plus-sized OLED model. However, it cannot be any larger than the current Plus, and therefore the screen size should be much smaller than this jump 4.7" to 5.8". It's been rumored already that next year will see a 5.2" and 6.4". This may be completely inaccurate, or it may be a confusion of the numbers because 5.2" would be the active screen area of the smaller one and 6.4" would be the total screen area of the larger one.

More simply, next year:

iPhone AR (5.2" active area; 5.8" total)
iPhone AR Plus (5.8" active area; 6.4" total)
 
Relentless Power said:
iPhone 8s Plus? Where did TVs you come up with this?
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Well this years iPhone 8 or whatever it gets called is the "Small" lady version. It's 5.8" OLED but no bezels so it's as small or close in size to a 4.7" IPhone 7 in size.

But no one realizes this. And think hey 5.8" bigger than 4.7" ok cool.

It's well known Apple gets their OLED phone Displays from Samsung.

However Samsung keeps the best for them selves. The Galaxy Note 8 comes with a 6.2" or 6.3" OLED Display which Apple will likely source for next years IPhone 8s PLUS model which everyone will go Crazy hype for.
 
Largan display and 3d sensor module in front facing camera unit.

Touch ID was bonded to front under glass failed. Even at pilot it was not working. Units were tested with larger power button with integrated fingerprint reader but according to our source, for the OLED units; no touch ID at all.

Basically fingerprint reader was under the glass, during tests for final design the reader wouldn't function, or at least to Apples standard. So new units include the finger print reader removed and instead relying on a front facing facial recognition sensor. A third design was tested increasing power button size with finger print sensor there instead. OLED model will not have touch ID.
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All hail Ming-Chi Kuo!
 
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So their VR hardware is cancelled, a new iMac update in 2018 with a black colour and more glass, my guess with this is that the Space Grey colour from the iMac Pro is coming to the other iMac's and that Apple will reduce the bezels on the iMac.
 
JPack said:
Largan display and 3d sensor module in front facing camera unit.

Touch ID was bonded to front under glass failed. Even at pilot it was not working. Units were tested with larger power button with integrated fingerprint reader but according to our source, for the OLED units; no touch ID at all.

Basically fingerprint reader was under the glass, during tests for final design the reader wouldn't function, or at least to Apples standard. So new units include the finger print reader removed and instead relying on a front facing facial recognition sensor. A third design was tested increasing power button size with finger print sensor there instead. OLED model will not have touch ID.
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All hail Ming-Chi Kuo!
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All hail agreed.

In short I was right. The IPhone 8 is a cobbled together compromised failure of technologies. I for one look forward to the IPhone 8s Plus next year with 6.3" OLED display and Touch ID embedded under the display.
This years moldel is as small as the 4.7" IPhone 7 its lady like in size.
 
TheRealAlex said:
All hail agreed.

In short I was right. The IPhone 8 is a cobbled together compromised failure of technologies. I for one look forward to the IPhone 8s Plus next year with 6.3" OLED display and Touch ID embedded under the display.
This years moldel is as small as the 4.7" IPhone 7 its lady like in size.
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If the 4.7" is the lady-like in size, then the 5.5" is the monster-tard-like in size.

Anyway, just to burst your bubble, a lot of women get the 5.5" because they carry around purses where they easily through it into.
 
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Infiniverse48 said:
If the 4.7" is the lady-like in size, then the 5.5" is the monster-tard-like in size.

Anyway, just to burst your bubble, a lot of women get the 5.5" because they carry around purses where they easily through it into.
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I am looking forward to next years IPhone 8s Plus at 6.4" OLED display sourced from Samsung. The as yet released 5.8" IPhone with no bezels is comparable in size to the current 4.7" Model. And that carries no swag factor and is targeted for the ladies it's lady like small vs. Next years Bigger Man sized model
 
TheRealAlex said:
I am looking forward to next years IPhone 8s Plus at 6.4" OLED display sourced from Samsung. The as yet released 5.8" IPhone with no bezels is comparable in size to the current 4.7" Model. And that carries no swag factor and is targeted for the ladies it's lady like small vs. Next years Bigger Man sized model
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No no I just told you the 5.5" is the monster-tard sized model. Remember?

It's the 'Hodor model'
 
TheRealAlex said:
I am looking forward to next years IPhone 8s Plus at 6.4" OLED display sourced from Samsung. The as yet released 5.8" IPhone with no bezels is comparable in size to the current 4.7" Model. And that carries no swag factor and is targeted for the ladies it's lady like small vs. Next years Bigger Man sized model
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I don't buy things for the "swag factor". But then I'm not a teenage boy. The current 4.7" iPhones are targeted at people who don't want a larger screen or larger sized phone. To say a phone is targeted at ladies due to the size is a ridiculous thing to say. Who are the SE size phones aimed at, children?
 
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Ghost31 said:
You guys can go ahead and believe all this. I'll believe it when apple announces it themselves
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While it is better to take things with grains of salt, I cannot completely dismiss a possible Touch ID less OLED model. Without Touch ID, I have to see reviews of the iPhone OLED model before convincing myself to buy one because the Iris Scanner has to be accurate and work well in the dark. Touch ID has worked well since the 5S days.
 
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Ghost31 said:
You guys can go ahead and believe all this. I'll believe it when apple announces it themselves
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A few people are just throwing crap at the wall, hoping something will stick that they can say, "See? I was right" about later. They feel the need to win at something, I guess. :D
 
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nviz22 said:
While it is better to take things with grains of salt, I cannot completely dismiss a possible Touch ID less OLED model. Without Touch ID, I have to see reviews of the iPhone OLED model before convincing myself to buy one because the Iris Scanner has to be accurate and work well in the dark. Touch ID has worked well since the 5S days.
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This is just my meaningless uneducated opinion here, but I am about a billion and a half percent sure apple didn't remove the Touch ID home button. It may be present in different form, but to remove it completely after Apple has worked so hard getting banks and financial institutions on board? All for some kinda face scanning technology that could probably be fooled a hell of a lot easier than a fingerprint? I just can't imagine it. I've been wrong before but to this day there isn't a face scanning technology that's as accurate as Touch ID as far as I know.
 
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Ghost31 said:
This is just my meaningless uneducated opinion here, but I am about a billion and a half percent sure apple didn't remove the Touch ID home button. It may be present in different form, but to remove it completely after Apple has worked so hard getting banks and financial institutions on board? All for some kinda face scanning technology that could probably be fooled a hell of a lot easier than a fingerprint? I just can't imagine it. I've been wrong before but to this day there isn't a face scanning technology that's as accurate as Touch ID as far as I know.
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Let's debunk the myth that Apple Pay requires Touch ID. It doesn't. I'm not sure why so many people think Apple Pay requires Touch ID.

Apple Pay can be authenticated using passcode. So let stop pretending Apple Pay is some fortress of security.

I for one consider facial recognition far more accurate than a 4 digit passcode that can be read over someone's shoulders.
 
nviz22 said:
While it is better to take things with grains of salt, I cannot completely dismiss a possible Touch ID less OLED model. Without Touch ID, I have to see reviews of the iPhone OLED model before convincing myself to buy one because the Iris Scanner has to be accurate and work well in the dark. Touch ID has worked well since the 5S days.
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It won't be using an iris scanner. That does require positioning. It will use a facial scanning tech, and it will unlock at oblique angles because it will recognize jaw structure, etc.
 
JPack said:
Let's debunk the myth that Apple Pay requires Touch ID. It doesn't. I'm not sure why so many people think Apple Pay requires Touch ID.

Apple Pay can be authenticated using passcode. So let stop pretending Apple Pay is some fortress of security.

I for one consider facial recognition far more accurate than a 4 digit passcode that can be read over someone's shoulders.
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Ahem ..."This is just my meaningless uneducated opinion here". But cool man
 
JPack said:
My apologies. I've seen the Touch ID argument so many times, I SMH every time I see it.
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I agree it doesn't require Touch ID, but people tend to lose their minds when Apple take a feature away and add something else, it's happened many times before.
There have been rumours that Apple has been working for years on facial recognition, it will be a 3D type that unlike other such features (Samsung's for example) it won't be fooled by pictures. Apple in fact hold patents for it. I'm looking forward to seeing what they announce!
 
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Infiniverse48 said:
It won't be using an iris scanner. That does require positioning. It will use a facial scanning tech, and it will unlock at oblique angles because it will recognize jaw structure, etc.
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The reddit report mentioned facial and iris scanning modules in the front facing camera though.
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Ghost31 said:
This is just my meaningless uneducated opinion here, but I am about a billion and a half percent sure apple didn't remove the Touch ID home button. It may be present in different form, but to remove it completely after Apple has worked so hard getting banks and financial institutions on board? All for some kinda face scanning technology that could probably be fooled a hell of a lot easier than a fingerprint? I just can't imagine it. I've been wrong before but to this day there isn't a face scanning technology that's as accurate as Touch ID as far as I know.
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Touch ID being an option for Apple Pay is huge. But as someone else wrote, the pass code is an alternative option. I don't want them to remove Touch ID period.
 
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Hmm. Stating that TouchID will be under the display for 7S/7S+ and totally absent from iPhone 8 (I guess due to differences with tech between LCD/OLED). Which also seems to imply larger screens on the 7S/7S+

Edit: I may be following incorrectly, that AMA is all over the map
 
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