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FTP on Tiger
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I'm not entirely familiar with this subject, but I think you can go to (In Finder), Go > "Connect to Server" (or Cmd+K).
Now that I think about this question, it seems like a read somewhere a month or two ago that there was a 3rd party app that allowed you to mount FTP servers like a volume in Finder. Let me look around a little and see if I can find that.pelachrum said:
I haven't used CyberDuck, but I know that Transmit does allow you to have drag-and-drop icons/dock icons/Dashboard widgets for your various FTP locations.
Tiger does not have direct support for FTP, no. But don't fear, all is not lost. Interarchy (www.interarchy.com - universal binary as of 8.0 - just $39) allows you to mount FTP shares in Finder, has very good Finder integration in fact, and loads of other sweet features.
What do you mean by direct FTP capabilities? The Finder can mount FTP volumes on the Desktop just like other network volumes. However, they are read-only. That is, you can download from them, but not upload to them. However, this capability allows the use of files stored on FTP servers without actually downloading a local copy.pelachrum said:
I heartily agree with Max on Macs about Interarchy. This wonderful app allows you to mount FTP servers on the Desktop with read/write access. Recommended.
Max on Macs said:
sorry but I do not buy that for one second. Now I appricate that I'm new on here, while also new to macs having only owned one for about 3 days (macbook pro).
just like linux, you've got full ftp built into the command console / terminal.
Okies so it's not a funky gui, but to say tiger doesn't have ftp is slightly misleading.
ecksmen said:
Agreed. FTP is built in, you can use it via command line.
Transmit sucks. It buggy as hell. I have not seen a worse FTP client on the Mac.... EVER. Interarchy isn't great. Captain FTP and Fetch are your best bets. I use both. I generally go through a long testing period of apps in each category until I find the ones that are best with features and stability. And these two are the best of the bunch.
Transmit is a bit overrated for it's wonderfully silky interface and Apple Design Award... If it were free, it'd be great, but I wouldn't actually pay $25 for it.
And just to reiterate, the Finder does support FTP. You can mount an FTP server as a network drive. You cannot copy files onto it.
Just to make it clear
And just to reiterate, the Finder does support FTP. You can mount an FTP server as a network drive. You cannot copy files onto it.
Just to make it clear
one button FTP
I've tried all the clients listed above, used the command line (linux, unix, dos, mac, blah blah blah) and the best mac ftp client I've found is OneButton FTP.
What is it?
OneButton FTP is a project with the goal of creating an open source graphical FTP client for Mac OS X (10.3.9 and above) using the Cocoa framework. OneButton FTP has a strong emphasis on drag and drop usability and file queuing.
(OK, I copied that from their website)
http://www.onebutton.org/
896K download - check it out and let me know what you think.
I've tried all the clients listed above, used the command line (linux, unix, dos, mac, blah blah blah) and the best mac ftp client I've found is OneButton FTP.
What is it?
OneButton FTP is a project with the goal of creating an open source graphical FTP client for Mac OS X (10.3.9 and above) using the Cocoa framework. OneButton FTP has a strong emphasis on drag and drop usability and file queuing.
(OK, I copied that from their website)
http://www.onebutton.org/
896K download - check it out and let me know what you think.
The FTP client built into OS X's command line is, by far, the most polished CLI FTP app I've used.Onizuka said:
pelachrum said:
Tiger DOES have direct FTP support built-in, but it's read-only, and therefore, not terribly useful. To write to a remote site, one needs to use an FTP client.
I use Fetch http://www.fetch.net/ which you have to pay for, but is very good. I highly recommend it!
I think a question here that nobody is asking is WHY is Finder FTP access read-only? In Windows Explorer I can r/w. In Konqueror I can r/w. Why the hell shouldn't I be able to on my Mac? I personally consider this a pretty big ball to drop on Apple's part. If they care so much about empowering the user and doing things that other systems "can't" do, why would they cripple something like this, something so common, basic, and useful, making a Mac the only system that can't do it?
I chalk it up to some legacy stuff... i.e., the Finder. A limitation therein. Just another thing that needs to be replaced. Kinda like the Help system.
Beyond that, personally, I don't like straight FTP. Cleartext usernames and passwords are scary, so I don'tmind that it doesn't workin the Finder.
Beyond that, personally, I don't like straight FTP. Cleartext usernames and passwords are scary, so I don'tmind that it doesn't workin the Finder.
There are any number of reasons. For one, there is a third-party app, Interarchy, from veteran Mac-exclusive developer Peter Lewis which allows read/write access to FTP sites. Then there is the question "Do you need FTP access to write to a server on which you have write permissions?"Kartel said:
State of FTP on the Mac...
Regardless of the Finder's shortcomings, I really struggle with the state of FTP on the Mac....
I've found Cyberduck to be a serious resource hog (it was using ~60MB when I last had it installed).
I've found Fugu to be just slightly light on the features and overall polish.
For Transmit/Fetch/Anything that Costs, I have a hard time paying more than $10-$15 for an FTP client.
...so, the short of it is, I can't seem to reconcile all my issues with FTP on the Mac. Perhaps I'm being a bit too picky.
But before it comes up, if I had the skills with which to create an FTP client of my own, I'd do it. However, Obj-C is not a language I'm familiar with, and I've never used the Cocoa framework.. Maybe one day I'll get up the gumption to teach myself (once my PB comes back from the Apple Store who's currently holding it hostage to replace the HDD).
Regardless of the Finder's shortcomings, I really struggle with the state of FTP on the Mac....
I've found Cyberduck to be a serious resource hog (it was using ~60MB when I last had it installed).
I've found Fugu to be just slightly light on the features and overall polish.
For Transmit/Fetch/Anything that Costs, I have a hard time paying more than $10-$15 for an FTP client.
...so, the short of it is, I can't seem to reconcile all my issues with FTP on the Mac. Perhaps I'm being a bit too picky.
But before it comes up, if I had the skills with which to create an FTP client of my own, I'd do it. However, Obj-C is not a language I'm familiar with, and I've never used the Cocoa framework.. Maybe one day I'll get up the gumption to teach myself (once my PB comes back from the Apple Store who's currently holding it hostage to replace the HDD).