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alexf

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Hi everyone,

Just a quick miscellaneous question:

In the Apple Store specials section, when explaining the refurbishment process, it states:

Each Apple Certified Reconditioned Product is fully tested (including full burn-in testing)

Just what is "full burn-in testing?"

Thanks :)
 
alexf said:
Hi everyone,

Just a quick miscellaneous question:

In the Apple Store specials section, when explaining the refurbishment process, it states:

Each Apple Certified Reconditioned Product is fully tested (including full burn-in testing)

Just what is "full burn-in testing?"

Thanks :)

Basically they try and set fire to the Macintosh. If it survives the ignition process, the char marks are wiped off, and the machine is ready for sale. Burn-in testing of the original NeXT computers from Steve Jobs' previous company was a little hazardous, as the cases were made from a magnesium alloy, and spectacular amounts of heat and light could often be seen surging from NeXT dealerships around 'burn-in' testing time.

Seriously, burn-in testing is just a process of running a machine for something like a 12 or 24-hour period, often while running some type of software which stresses the various components, ie: something with heavy CPU, RAM, video and hard drive access. The idea is that if a particular component is going to fail soon, 24 hours of being pushed hard will tip that component over the edge, and it can be replaced before selling to the customer. So if the refurb comes back from the customer with, say, a cooling fan or hard drive which is on its last legs, it will hopefully be picked up by running it at 100% power/utilisation for 24 hours. Burn-in testing is a very common way of testing new computers also, not just refurbs.
 
Thanks for your response...

I have to wonder: is this good for the computer? I don't know about you, but in my own work I try to avoid stressing the computer to this extent... :confused:
 
It's ok, unless cooling is wrong or off on the CPU. Which these tests can find out too. The roughest thing that's done to a computer is the initial startup. Running 24hrs @ 100% CPU is like a walk in the park.
 
oingoboingo said:
Burn-in testing is a very common way of testing new computers also, not just refurbs.
Actually it's not any more, maybe at some of the small custom PC shops. But not at the factories anymore.

These days they just get the smoke test, and a boot test and they're boxed and shipped.

The old pictures of the burn-in racks at the Mac factories were sort of neat, but now there are stacks of boxes at the end on the assembly line.
 
Sun Baked said:
Actually it's not any more, maybe at some of the small custom PC shops. But not at the factories anymore.

These days they just get the smoke test, and a boot test and they're boxed and shipped.

The old pictures of the burn-in racks at the Mac factories were sort of neat, but now there are stacks of boxes at the end on the assembly line.

They do still run burn in tests in the manufacturing plants for new computers, each company may do it differently but its still done.
 
jane doe said:
They do still run burn in tests in the manufacturing plants for new computers, each company may do it differently but its still done.
If you can find me any major computer factory that runs a machine for 12 or 24-hour period, I'd like to see it.

They test the computers these days, and call it burn in.
 
Sun Baked said:
If you can find me any major computer factory that runs a machine for 12 or 24-hour period, I'd like to see it.

They test the computers these days, and call it burn in.

Apple burns in the computers with a number of tests. I'm not sure about the length of time its run, but they have several tests that are run before shipping out.
 
jane doe said:
Apple burns in the computers with a number of tests. I'm not sure about the length of time its run, but they have several tests that are run before shipping out.
Dell is probably "testing" for a couple hours, don't know how long Hon Hai (a main Apple Computer sub-contractor) runs their tests for.

While the mom and pop PC makers will probably run the machines for 2 or 3 days -- actually burning them in -- before releasing it to the customer.

Apple's switch to the testing from the extended burn-in (back when they had their own factories) really bumped up the number of DOAs and hardware failure in the first few days.

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So basically smoke test em, and see if they boot, then kick them out the door.
 
By the way, why are they called "burn-in" tests anyway? It makes me almost hesitant to buy a computer that has been "burned-in..."
 
oingoboingo said:
Basically they try and set fire to the Macintosh. If it survives the ignition process, the char marks are wiped off, and the machine is ready for sale. Burn-in testing of the original NeXT computers from Steve Jobs' previous company was a little hazardous, as the cases were made from a magnesium alloy, and spectacular amounts of heat and light could often be seen surging from NeXT dealerships around 'burn-in' testing time.

So that's what that really large spot of missing finishing on my iBook lid is from...

Mike
 
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