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I've been using Os X Lion for a while now and the only feature I love and find useful is the Full Screen app support. I used SIMBL and Maximizer bundle to enable this feature on non apple apps, and they work great too.

However, I want to downgrade to Mac Os X Snow Leopard but want to lnow if anyone is aware of similar feature? This feat had grown on me and making the switch back difficult.
 
Why are you wanting to go back to Snow Leopard? It sounds like there's a feature on Lion that would keep you.
 
Many apps, i.e. Quicktime, have a Full-Screen mode in Snow Leopard. It just goes Full-Screen in the current space.

So if it's Lion's opening a new space when an app goes Full-Screen that you like, in SL just make sure you have at least 2 spaces, open or move the app to the new space and the go to Full-Screen mode.

If there are a few apps that you would like to always open in Full-Screen mode, assign them to a space. For example, on my MBP I have Parallels assigned to Space #7 and it will go to Full-screen mode when entering emulation mode.
 
Many apps, i.e. Quicktime, have a Full-Screen mode in Snow Leopard. It just goes Full-Screen in the current space.

So if it's Lion's opening a new space when an app goes Full-Screen that you like, in SL just make sure you have at least 2 spaces, open or move the app to the new space and the go to Full-Screen mode.

If there are a few apps that you would like to always open in Full-Screen mode, assign them to a space. For example, on my MBP I have Parallels assigned to Space #7 and it will go to Full-screen mode when entering emulation mode.

I too have/had Vmware assigned to second desktop space and have it setup like that. :). Actually, I dont care about Full Screen opening up a new space, tbh, its inconsistant in a way with your desktop arrangements.

I mostly wanted Firefox to occupy the whole screen, with menu bar/Dock hidden, that way I get more browsing space in MBP. The current Full screen option just isn't the same.

@^^ The reason I am trying to switch back is, I have only 4GB memory, I used to be able to run Vmware too along with SL. Now just using Lion I have to use swap. Yes I could add more Ram but..you get the idea.
 
I too have/had Vmware assigned to second desktop space and have it setup like that. :). Actually, I dont care about Full Screen opening up a new space, tbh, its inconsistant in a way with your desktop arrangements.

I mostly wanted Firefox to occupy the whole screen, with menu bar/Dock hidden, that way I get more browsing space in MBP. The current Full screen option just isn't the same.

@^^ The reason I am trying to switch back is, I have only 4GB memory, I used to be able to run Vmware too along with SL. Now just using Lion I have to use swap. Yes I could add more Ram but..you get the idea.

Fair enough-cost. I know the feeling. But when I feel more RAM will significantly benefit me I'll get it without bothering to look at the price-that's irrelevant when you require something. :cool:
 
Full screen apps give you what... another 1/2" of viewing ability? If that's all that's holding you back then I'd just learn to live without it like we did in all the other OSX versions.

Personally, I'm only staying because of iCloud. The only other useful feature in Lion for me is the "double-tap" to zoom in on web pages (handy on a 13" MBP).

Everything else is just useless and confusing crap as far as I'm concerned.
 
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I've been using Os X Lion for a while now and the only feature I love and find useful is the Full Screen app support. I used SIMBL and Maximizer bundle to enable this feature on non apple apps, and they work great too.

However, I want to downgrade to Mac Os X Snow Leopard but want to lnow if anyone is aware of similar feature? This feat had grown on me and making the switch back difficult.

I have Lion Os X 10.7.2 and Love it! My brother on the other hand has a Mac Book, using Snow Leopard Os X, he is having difficulty showing a full screen, I don't remember how, can anyone help us?
 
I've been using menuanddockless over the last month or so and it works o.k.
You'll need to install Simbl and away you go.
 
I have Lion Os X 10.7.2 and Love it! My brother on the other hand has a Mac Book, using Snow Leopard Os X, he is having difficulty showing a full screen, I don't remember how, can anyone help us?

In Snow Leopard like Lion, only apps that support Full-screen mode can do it.

The main difference between Full-screen in SL and Lion is that Lion creates a new space for the app while SL takes the app to Full-screen mode in the current space. Also in SL, Full-screen mode's behavior with a 2nd monitor is dependent of the way the app decided to use it. Some will blank the 2nd monitor and some won't. While in Lion, all apps that use Lion's Full-screen mode will blank the 2nd monitor.

If an app has a Full-screen mode you will usually be able to find a Full-Screen option in the View menu. If there isn't one, the app doesn't do Full-screen at least in it's current mode. For example, in SL Itunes' main screen can't be put into Full-screen mode, but when it's playing a video, the video's window can be put into Full-screen mode.
 
In Snow Leopard like Lion, only apps that support Full-screen mode can do it.

The main difference between Full-screen in SL and Lion is that Lion creates a new space for the app while SL takes the app to Full-screen mode in the current space. Also in SL, Full-screen mode's behavior with a 2nd monitor is dependent of the way the app decided to use it. Some will blank the 2nd monitor and some won't. While in Lion, all apps that use Lion's Full-screen mode will blank the 2nd monitor.

If an app has a Full-screen mode you will usually be able to find a Full-Screen option in the View menu. If there isn't one, the app doesn't do Full-screen at least in it's current mode. For example, in SL Itunes' main screen can't be put into Full-screen mode, but when it's playing a video, the video's window can be put into Full-screen mode.

Nice how you downplayed Lion's Full Screen mode in order to justify the lack of it Snow Leopard. Sort of the way people downplayed Cut N Paste in Windows because of Snow Leopard's lack of it. It's not just the fact the developers need to add it, they would've done that long ago. It's due to the API's that are coded in the system. Personally I feel Lion's way of Full Screen taking up a whole space is logical. What's the point of using a Full Screen mode if other apps are going to occupy the space, that's stupid. People need to move on to the next version of products that have the features that they previous OS doesn't have instead of trying to do workarounds. :p
 
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Nice how you downplayed Lion's Full Screen mode in order to justify the lack of it Snow Leopard. Sort of the way people downplayed Cut N Paste in Windows because of Snow Leopard's lack of it. It's not just the fact the developers need to add it, they would've done that long ago. It's due to the API's that are coded in the system. Personally I feel Lion's way of Full Screen taking up a whole space is logical. What's the point of using a Full Screen mode if other apps are going to occupy the space, that's stupid. People need to move on to the next version of products that have the features that they previous OS doesn't have instead of trying to do workarounds. :p

The reasons for Full-screen mode staying in the same Space are:

1. It does affect the order or placement of the spaces. This is a preference, but I do like the grid of Spaces in SL. It's easier to switch between Spaces since I don't have to worry about it changing placement.

2. If you have a 2nd monitor as I and many others do, Lion's Full-screen mode makes the 2nd monitor go blank since there isn't a desktop behind it. Thus, while in SL I can have a video playing in Full-screen on 1 monitor and still be able to do something else like surf the net in the 2nd monitor, Lion can't do that and to me that's stupid.
 
The reasons for Full-screen mode staying in the same Space are:

1. It does affect the order or placement of the spaces. This is a preference, but I do like the grid of Spaces in SL. It's easier to switch between Spaces since I don't have to worry about it changing placement.

2. If you have a 2nd monitor as I and many others do, Lion's Full-screen mode makes the 2nd monitor go blank since there isn't a desktop behind it. Thus, while in SL I can have a video playing in Full-screen on 1 monitor and still be able to do something else like surf the net in the 2nd monitor, Lion can't do that and to me that's stupid.

In regards to the placement of the spaces, you're right, it's personal preference. It's never bothered me. In regards to watching videos in full screen, could you please offer an example such as what application are you referring to in regards to watching videos in full screen? Also what other applications did you use in full screen in Snow Leopard using multiple monitors that can't be achieved now in Lion?

The average user (which represents "MANY PEOPLE") doesn't use multiple monitors and while I'm not discounting the point you're trying to make but that's stretching it a bit to say you and MANY people use multiple monitors. I've been on the Mac over 14 years and I consider myself a "power user" and I've never needed multiple monitors.
 
I've done it with EyeTV, Quicktime and Mplayer OSX Extended. In fact I have these setup so that they will stay on my 2nd monitor in every Space. It's true I use this ability to watch videos and that is where I know I've seen the option.

I didn't mean "many" as in "most". Sorry for the confusion, but if only 10% have a 2nd monitor, that's still a lot of users. In fact, I mentioned this loss of ability to a salesperson at an Apple store and he thought this was a problem since it would lower the sales of Apple monitors.

As you said, this is all about preferences.
 
I just remembered that I also use SL's Full-screen mode in Parallels and Neverwinter2 on my MBP, but I don't have that one set-up with a 2nd monitor to check their behavior.
 
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