(Somehow the smileys didnt show up and peopel took me seriously) but I guess I can try it? The thing is, even with this crippled Mac - how could I go through a week withdrawl?.. hoping that it would work and then if it didn't. It sounds like you are setting me up. I'm open to crazy ideas... anything to get it back to normal but why, physically, would this work? The basic problem is that last weekend, thinking that I was doing my computer good.. I finally went out and spent $220.00CND on the Norton System Works set. I installed it but for some reason, and I can't remember the exact series of events, I ended up having a computer that would not wake from sleep,in my ignorance and thinking I knew what I was doing I pushed the reset button,(Kudo?) on the inside to kill the power so I could push the start button and it would start. I did this many times, while the unit was still plugged in, because I could not get sleep to work... So I guess I blew the time management section of the Logic board..I'm really not to knowlwdgable abot the inner workings but the techs I've talked to say that the problem is unfixable without spending 9 hundred dollars. Not worth it they say I've got a 933 G4 and its my first.Part of the problem is the battery (PRAM) does not recharge? so no point putting another one in as it will just drain and at 10 bucks each it's expensive and a major nuisance- It was suggested to remove and replace battery when in use but that's crazy compared to just being able to hit a key on the key board and having access to the computer. I guess for some reason the computer does not recognize that it is plugged into AC?
here is the info on my computer
ah yes, the dash, forgot about that. well im sure of anything right now, its 430 in the morning so i cant really think straight. ill think some more and we can take a look at what others have to say, if no one else has any advice i will find out more for you on tuesday.Originally posted by panzerfaust
I tried the option apple f o key thing and it was cool to restart and have the code for the computer sitting there! never seen that before. I typed in reset all but it said no word as reset-- then I noticed to continue boot it said Mac -boot , a hyphon so I typed that-(reset-all)- and the computer shut down and started up. I tried the sleep mode again from the menu bar-the screen went dark the fan stopped whirring but the light on thefront of the tower just went out . There was no intermittent ebb and flow in the glow. The computer would not wake when prodded. so hmmm.... what else can we try, Thanks by the way for taking the time to answer my query- if we get it working you will have made me a very happy camper.
(Plug it back into the wall.) When the system is at the operating system, yank out that 10 pin cable. Your power switch should be disconnected, and your power light should go off, but the system should still be on... hopefully.
Originally posted by panzerfaust
What mean kung - fu? I haven't done the last thing on the itinerary as I'm not totally confident I won't make things worse.
It sounds like this is where your problems started. Norton probably didn't fry your motherboard (AKA logic board), and maybe it has nothing to do with the problem. Maybe something coincidentally went wrong right at that same time.
Pretty close, actually. In the earlier days of Mac hardware that switch reset the Cuda chip, and the switch took on the name of its function, I guess.
OK, the reset switch doesn't kill the power, it simply resets the PRAM (parameter RAM, which maintains the preferences, so to speak, of the low-level software [Open Firmware] that runs on the motherboard). The correct way to force your computer to shut down is to hold the power button down for about five seconds until it shuts off. Or you can unplug it for roughly the same effect.
Yes, you most likely fried the PMU99, which is the power management chip in all recent Macs. (My guess is that the acronym basically means "the power management unit that was introduced in 1999.") If the owner's manual mentions that reset switch (it may not), I'm almost certain that it also says not to press it more than once or you'll crash the chip, and then the internal battery will run down very quickly (which, you say below, is what the tech told you is happening).
It looks like Frohickey is trying to determine if the problem is with the power switch and/or its assembly. I suspect that it's not--that you really have fried the PMU. In which case I don't think there's any way around ponying up the $1000 for a new motherboard (unless you can live with the symptoms of a non-working PMU). You've probably fried a chip that can't be replaced, and...that's about it. The only way to get a new chip is to get a new motherboard.I'm really not to knowlwdgable abot the inner workings but the techs I've talked to say that the problem is unfixable without spending 9 hundred dollars. Not worth it they say I've got a 933 G4 and its my first.Part of the problem is the battery (PRAM) does not recharge? so no point putting another one in as it will just drain and at 10 bucks each it's expensive and a major nuisance- It was suggested to remove and replace battery when in use but that's crazy compared to just being able to hit a key on the key board and having access to the computer. I guess for some reason the computer does not recognize that it is plugged into AC?
Originally posted by panzerfaust
What mean kung - fu? I haven't done the last thing on the itinerary as I'm not totally confident I won't make things worse.
No, I don't think so. I expect that whatever you're experiencing now will simply continue.
OK. You also said that the $10 battery is running down very quickly, right? That will probably continue as well.