Just saw where the G5 Firmware updater ver 5.1.5f2 is available. Actually it came up 28 Sep I believe. Anyway I was doing the automatic Apple update and saw it. Downloaded it and install. Then the instructions come up telling you what u need to do and one item is to remove non Apple Ram. Geeeez, I hate disconnecting all my wires and pulling the box out and taking out my 1 gig of non Apple (read cheap ram). Is it really necessary? Anybody install w/o going through the rigamoralA? Yeah, I know...shut up and follow the instructions stupid. Cheers