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Those benchmarks seem somewhat disappointing.

Geekbench isn’t the end it all of all benchmarks, but looking at last year’s Intel Core i7-3840QM versus the new i7-4960HQ, I’m seeing a measly 6.5% improvement overall. And that’s without any power savings whatsoever.

I’m tempted to cancel the order and wait for broadwell, but who knows how the graphics performance will turn out if they decide to axe dGPUs for the high end models. :rolleyes:
 
Mavericks will improve the UI performance not necessarily graphics performance.

I doubt Haswell rmbp will have a marked graphics increase. If it did wouldn't Apple compare it to the 650m on their website.

Whenever something is at least 50% faster they put as a selling point.

Those benchmarks seem somewhat disappointing.

Geekbench isn’t the end it all of all benchmarks, but looking at last year’s Intel Core i7-3840QM versus the new i7-4960HQ, I’m seeing a measly 6.5% improvement overall. And that’s without any power savings whatsoever.

I’m tempted to cancel the order and wait for broadwell, but who knows how the graphics performance will turn out if they decide to axe dGPUs for the high end models. :rolleyes:
 
I've been researching this all morning. I compared the processors earlier and found them to be very similar. Shockingly enough, the GPU's are almost identical. The 750M scores about .1 better in each test when compared to the 650M.

I might just pick up a first gen and save some money. I'm curious to see how much faster the SSD's are.
 
I've been researching this all morning. I compared the processors earlier and found them to be very similar. Shockingly enough, the GPU's are almost identical. The 750M scores about .1 better in each test when compared to the 650M.

I might just pick up a first gen and save some money. I'm curious to see how much faster the SSD's are.

do you have links to these tests? would like to see before i decide.
 
do you have links to these tests? would like to see before i decide.

Sure.

This is for the GPU. In terms of performance they seem similar.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GT-750M-vs-GeForce-GT-650M

The processor scores can be compared to those of the geekbench scores.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geek..."Intel Core i7-3840QM" frequency:2800 bits:32

Not sure if you were looking at this particular processor but this is what I found for my own personal research on the models I'm interested in.

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/32..._(BGA)_vs_Intel_Core_i7_Mobile_i7-4850HQ.html

http://versus.com/en/intel-core-i7-3840qm-vs-intel-core-i7-4850hq
 
Here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-750M.90245.0.html

There should be a comparison chart under each test. If not, compare by flipping back and forth with this http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html

The problem with those benchmarks is they are mostly using the GDDR3 650M and 750M -- Apple uses the GDDR5 variants, and also clocks them a little higher. The performance delta could be similar, but actual performance numbers should be a little bit higher on both.
 
Actually all of those tested 750Ms are DDR3. It is this old annoying we don't mention the memory idea. I wish Nvidia/AMD would finally use different names for DDR3 and GDDR5 versions.
Up till now all higher end more gaming focused notebook that have been released, went straight for 760M or 765M. These are all GDDR5. Thin high end allrounders like the Asus UX51VZ or the Samsung Ativ Book 8 still haven't been updated and these are the most likely to get 750M with GDDR5 unless they go directly for a 760M or some AMD chip.
Currently aside from the MBP all the 750M notebooks are fairly price conscious multimedia allrounders that try to capitalise on the 750M name and do not bother with significantly more expensive GDDR5 memory when DDR3 comes almost for free these days. With DDR3 1800 the 750M still seems to do okay but it really cannot be compared to a 750M that would come with GDDR5.
It isn't GDDR3 it is just DDR3. GDDR3 is something else.

Notebookcheck lists all the notebooks the tests come from and also different results side by side if there is a significant margin. They first need to test a GDDR5 750M before they can really compare them.
 
Actually all of those tested 750Ms are DDR3. It is this old annoying we don't mention the memory idea. I wish Nvidia/AMD would finally use different names for DDR3 and GDDR5 versions.
Up till now all higher end more gaming focused notebook that have been released, went straight for 760M or 765M. These are all GDDR5. Thin high end allrounders like the Asus UX51VZ or the Samsung Ativ Book 8 still haven't been updated and these are the most likely to get 750M with GDDR5 unless they go directly for a 760M or some AMD chip.
Currently aside from the MBP all the 750M notebooks are fairly price conscious multimedia allrounders that try to capitalise on the 750M name and do not bother with significantly more expensive GDDR5 memory when DDR3 comes almost for free these days. With DDR3 1800 the 750M still seems to do okay but it really cannot be compared to a 750M that would come with GDDR5.
It isn't GDDR3 it is just DDR3. GDDR3 is something else.

Notebookcheck lists all the notebooks the tests come from and also different results side by side if there is a significant margin. They first need to test a GDDR5 750M before they can really compare them.

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/inde...geforce-gt-750m-2gb-gddr5-vs-geforce-gtx-660m

The 750M 2GB GDDR5 is slightly better then the 660M. It's also less draining on the battery.

Seems like the 750M in the Haswell rMBP is quite good, right? I'm really trying to get a Good view of Iris Pro, the 750M, how good they both are and if the 750M model is worth the huge price over the Iris Pro only model.
 
If 750m gpu is so good why didn't apple mention on their website.

For the haswell iMac they did mention the nvidia was faster.
 
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I've been researching this all morning. I compared the processors earlier and found them to be very similar. Shockingly enough, the GPU's are almost identical. The 750M scores about .1 better in each test when compared to the 650M.

I might just pick up a first gen and save some money. I'm curious to see how much faster the SSD's are.

Sata rMBPs 450-500 read/write, Haswell PCI 800 read/write.
 
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