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Getting more comfortable over time?

Is your Vision Pro getting more comfortable with use?

  • Nope, it's still the same, but was always fine

    Votes: 7 10.0%

  • Nope, it's still the same, and still bugs me

    Votes: 20 28.6%

  • Yes, it does seem to be getting better

    Votes: 41 58.6%

  • I didn't notice before, but now that you mention it, yes.

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Total voters
    70
c deerinck

c deerinck

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I have noticed in the last few days that it is getting more comfortable wearing the Vision Pro. I'm mostly using the dual band strap. It really hit me this morning, when I put them on, and it was like new shoes slowly becoming your new favorite shoes. It might be due to the light shield conforming better to my face, or me just getting used to it. Not sure, but I'm very curious if others are experiencing this too.
 
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Yup. I'm still only using the solo loop strap, but now that I've got it dialed in and have gotten used to the correct positioning on my head, it honestly doesn't bother me at all. My routine has now become wake up, have coffee, put on the headset, and sign into work. I then use it for 3-4 hours till lunch, and then even during lunch I'll keep the headset on to watch some Apple TV content. Either my body as adjusted to it, or it really is just becoming more comfortable over time. Who knows, but regardless I'm just loving the Vision Pro more and more as time goes on.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
I'm honestly blown away that Apple couldn't do WAY better on the comfort angle.
I would have bet money that would be the one area they'd really nail
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The headset really needs an optional strap from the front to the back, going over the head. However, I suspect that was nixed due to being an "un-Apple-like look" (not cool enough). Hopefully, this will be added in the next generation, or the AVP will struggle. (And, hopefully, 3rd parties will add better head support for the current AVP.)
 
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turbineseaplane said:
These types of products simply have zero chance for mainstream adoption

I'm honestly blown away that Apple couldn't do WAY better on the comfort angle.
I would have bet money that would be the one area they'd really nail
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I am hopeful based on others experiences' that I have a bad fit in my light shield. I am very surprised the store wasn't more prepared as far as the fit goes. I picked mine up in store and got no feedback about how I put the device on or if it fit well. The employee asked "does it feel ok?" and it did, so I said "yeah." But they just had the same face scan I had done on the app.

I absolutely LOVE the interface, watching content, and even doing work in it for the first 30-45 minutes. I wish I could stay in it all day. So hopefully a shield change fixes it. I guess one of the advantages to the high price and limited rollout is they're learning lessons to apply when this is at a mainstream price.
 
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c deerinck said:
I have noticed in the last few days that it is getting more comfortable wearing the Vision Pro. I'm mostly using the dual band strap. It really hit me this morning, when I put them on, and it was like new shoes slowly becoming your new favorite shoes. It might be due to the light shield conforming better to my face, or me just getting used to it. Not sure, but I'm very curious if others are experiencing this too.
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I've been one of the lucky ones, for whatever reason, and found it comfortable enough since day one to go in for 5 hours, only leaving to be sociable. I find the single loop to be more comfortable once I adjust it so it sits a tad higher on the back of my head. Yesterday I realized I had been wearing it for 8 hours and had forgotten all about any pressure on my face. I had rediscovered an old favorite game (civilization) and lost track of time.

I am going to get flak for this, and I am not trying to minimize other people's experience, but I think it's partly about expectations and 'muscle memory' if you will. We are used to sitting and so the pressure on the back of our thighs doesn't bother us. But if you focus on the back of your legs, you can feel the pressure, then you forget about it again. Most people are NOT used to having a heavyish goggle pressing on their face so it's irritating. Me, one of my favorite activities is snorkeling and scuba diving. Feeling pressure on my face is a good thing. It means my mask won't leak around the edges.

Anyway, it started out okay and has only gotten better for me.
 
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Solo loop is absolutely the better strap once you realize the strap needs to ride the top crown of your head, not the back. Dual loop is okay, but it's such a pain to pop on and off, a pain to get properly set and adjusted. Increases friction whereas the dual loop you can put on effortlessly.
 
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For me it was actually finding out how to use the solo loop properly. Moving higher or lower on the head to reduce the pressure on forehead vs cheeks. Once you get the sweet spot, it’s so much more comfortable.
 
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I went back for 2 fit checks. And think a diff size light shield is the answer.
I love it so much that I am trying very hard to find a more comfy fit
 
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It got a little more comfortable over time, but still not comfortable enough for it to be worth the price for me. I just returned mine today. I'm somewhat sad to do so - it's such a magical device in many ways - but for now, I couldn't justify holding on to it for almost 4 thousand dollars. I am very excited to see what Apple does with the next generation though.
 
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fs454 said:
Solo loop is absolutely the better strap once you realize the strap needs to ride the top crown of your head, not the back.
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Everyone is different.

It might work well for you near the top of the head, but that's a painful position for me. The AVP fits me better if I move the solo loop downwards. When I wear it high, it puts a lot of pressure on my cheeks and that will cause me pain. Moving it down, the pressure eventually moves from my cheeks to my forehead, and I have to find that point where the pressure is balanced between the two.
 
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I routinely wear it for 5-7 hours a day. It’s completely comfortable to me.

The first couple of days when I was fiddling with the different straps and learning how to use it, wear it, I had some discomfort. But after a few days, I realized that the single loop band was actually better for me, and I’ve learned how to position it on my head. Long hours, no problem. No red marks, nothing.
 
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TLewis said:
The AVP fits me better if I move the solo loop downwards. When I wear it high, it puts a lot of pressure on my cheeks and that will cause me pain. Moving it down, the pressure eventually moves from my cheeks to my forehead, and I have to find that point where the pressure is balanced between the two.
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Exactly this for me. I was first trying the solo loop band riding higher on my head, because I thought that would somehow balance the weight. But once I started lowering it, I could just feel the weight being removed from my cheeks.
 
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I have a theory that Apple, in all of their testing, found that the solo loop band was actually the most comfortable. But, with the early reviews, and people not really knowing how best to use it, there developed this idea that you must have something like the dual-loop band. So, Apple decided to include it. But I think many if not most people will prefer the single loop band once they get used to how it should fit.
 
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Got AVP on day 1 and when I got home to put it on, I was really disappointed about how uncomfortable it was. I used the solo loop and the displays bumped up against my nose bridge. After googling I figured out how to move the displays and then tried the dual band and put on the thicker light seal cushion. Now it's comfortable enough that I can wear it for 3 hours at a time. My eyes also had to adjust to it—didn't wear it for 3 hours on day 1 but worked my way up. This took some trial and error to figure out and I can get how some people may not want to bother with all that. Apple will need to figure this all out in the 2nd generation but it is possible to use AVP as a primary computer for long stretches of time with relative comfort.

In some ways it's more comfortable than my laptop which I have to crane my neck down a bit. My posture is better with the AVP.
 
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Timo_Existencia said:
I have a theory that Apple, in all of their testing, found that the solo loop band was actually the most comfortable. But, with the early reviews, and people not really knowing how best to use it, there developed this idea that you must have something like the dual-loop band. So, Apple decided to include it. But I think many if not most people will prefer the single loop band once they get used to how it should fit.
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IF they take the time to learn how to properly position it. You wont get that in a 30 minute review, and apparently all these reviewers in their rush to report, didnt take the time either. That’s what i am learning about the AVP, if you want to find something bad, you will find it. But if you take the time to actually explore it, well, might still be bad LOL. But might be good.
 
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fs454 said:
Solo loop is absolutely the better strap once you realize the strap needs to ride the top crown of your head, not the back. Dual loop is okay, but it's such a pain to pop on and off, a pain to get properly set and adjusted. Increases friction whereas the dual loop you can put on effortlessly.
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I went back to the solo loop for the last hour of my workday and I think this is correct. When I am able to get it dialed in perfectly (like it is right now) - it is comfortable. I just can’t seem to always get it dialed in correctly.

Still going to do a fit check, but I have more hope right now after an hour in the solo loop than I did after 2 hours in the dual loop earlier today. Unfortunately it’s time for me to shut down for the day so won’t know if I could go longer, but I feel like I could go for a couple more hours.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
These types of products simply have zero chance for mainstream adoption

I'm honestly blown away that Apple couldn't do WAY better on the comfort angle.
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Sounds like a new company selling shoes and everybody complaining that the shoes are uncomfortable. Maybe the buyers should buy the right sized shoes? After a while, everybody will be comfortable when they realize that the right size shoes actually work.
 
Timo_Existencia said:
I have a theory that Apple, in all of their testing, found that the solo loop band was actually the most comfortable. But, with the early reviews, and people not really knowing how best to use it, there developed this idea that you must have something like the dual-loop band. So, Apple decided to include it. But I think many if not most people will prefer the single loop band once they get used to how it should fit.
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I have a related theory (well, more like a wild-a** guess): while the solo loop band was judged the "most comfortable", it wasn't the most comfortable for everyone which is why the dual-band exists. Furthermore, I would guess an older prototype had a band from the headset going over the head to the back. Think of a solo band with a fabric strap going from the back to the headset. This was possibly even more comfortable than the current solo band, but it was judged to be too fugly/un-Apple-like, and so it was dropped.
 
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